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John Winthrop to Henry Winthrop1
Winthrop, John Winthrop, Henry

1629-01-30

Sonne Henrye,

It is my daylye care to commende you to the Lorde, that he would please to putt his true feare into your heart and the faythe of the Lord Jesus Christ, that you may be saved, and that your wayes may be pleasinge in his sight: I wishe also your outward prosperitye, so farre as may be for your good. I have been sicke, these 7: or 8: weekes neere vnto deathe, but the Lorde hathe had mercye on me, to restore me, yet I am not able to goe abroad: I sent you by Capt. Powell2 a Lettre and in 67it a note of suche thinges as I likewise sent you by him, in a Cheste with 2 lockes, whereof the keyes were deliuered to his Brother who went master of the shippe:3 the thinges cost me about 35 li. but as yet I have received nothinge towardes it. I sent diverse tymes to Capt. Powell about your Tobacko, but my man could never see it, but had answeare I should have it, or mony for it: but there was 10: pounde of it by your appointment to be deliuered to one, and the worthe of 4 li. to another, which made me, that I knew not what course to take: besides I founde, by the rolles you sent to me and to your vnckles, that it was verye ill conditioned, fowle, full of stalkes and evill coloured, and your vnckle Fones takinge the Judgment of divers Grocers, none of them would give five shillinges a pounde for it: I desired Capt. Powell (cominge one daye to see me) that he would helpe me with monye for it, which he promised to doe, but as yet I heare not from him. I would have sent you some other thinges by Mr. Randall, but in truethe I have no monye, and I am so farre in debt allreadye to bothe your vnckles, as I am ashamed to borrowe any more. I have disbursed a great deale of monye for you more then my estate will beare: I payde for your debtes since you went aboue 30 li. besides 4: li. 10 s. to Annett and Dixon, and now 35 li. except you sende commoditye to rayse monye I can supplye you no further: I have many other children that are vnprovided, and I see my life is vncertain. I mervaile at your great vndertakinges, havinge no meanes, and knowinge how muche I am in debt allreadye. Salomon saythe he who hasteth to be rich shall surely come to pouerty: it had been more wisdome, and better becomminge your youthe, to have conteined your selfe in a moderate course, for your 3: yeares, and by that tyme, by your owne gettinges and my helpe, you might have been able to have doone somewhat, but this hathe been allwayes the fruit of your vaine overreachinge minde, which wilbe your overthrowe, if you attaine not more discreation and moderation with your yeares: I doe wonder vpon what grounde you should be ledd into so grosse an error, as to thinke, that I could provide 10: such men as you write for and disburse a matter of 200 li. (when I owe more allreadye, then I am able to paye, without sale of my lande) and to 68doe this at some 2: or 3: monthes warninge: well I will write no more of these thinges: I praye God make you more wise and sober, and bringe you home in peace in his due tyme. If I receive mony for your Tobacco before mr. Randall goe, I will sende you somethinge els, otherwise you must be content to staye till I can. If you sende over any more Tobacco, take order it may be deliuered to me, and if you will have any to have shares out of it, let me have the disposinge of it, for this last course of yours makes me iealous of your intent, as I can be no lesse, when you gave me suche particular direction for the best improvement of it, and yet vnderhand appoint another to dispose of a good parte of it: well, enough of this:4 your brother (as I wrote to you) hath been in the Levant aboue this halfe yeare, and I looke not for him before a yeare more, your freindes heere are all in healthe: your vnckles and Auntes commende them to you, but they will take none of your Tobacko: onely your vnckle Tindale and Aunt (whom you write your kinswoman vpon the outside of your Tobacco) thanke you for their.5 I sent you allso 2: boyes (for men I could gett none) suche as Capt. Powell carried over, but I knewe not what to doe for their bindinge, beinge not able then either to walke or write, and they beinge but youthes. For newes heere is litle, but what (I suppose) this bearer can tell you: we shall have peace with France:6 The Dutche have taken from the Spaniard, in the W: Indyes, a verye greate prize of silver gold etc: and have brought it safe home:7 The king of Bohemia, and his oldest sonne goeinge aboard to see it, in their returne were caste awaye, the Kinge was saved, but the prince and many others were loste.8 Sir Nath: Barnardiston9 and Sir William Springe,10 are knightes of the Parliament for Suffolk, 69all the gentlemen have been longe since sett at libertye.11 Sir Francis Barington is at rest in the Lorde.12 Sir Hen: Mildmay13 of Graces is Sherife of Essex and mr. Gurdon14 for Suffolk: I have stayed sendinge my Lettre aboue a weeke since I wrote it, expectinge some mony from Capt. Powell, accordinge to his promise, that I might have sent you some other thinges, but I heere of none: therefore I will ende, and deferre till some other occasion: so againe I commend you to the blessinge protection and direction of the Lord and rest your lovinge father

Jo: Winthrop. London: this 30: of January 1628–29.
1.

W. 7 A. 24; Savage (1825), I. 354–356; (1853), I. 423–425; N. Darnell Davis, The Cavaliers and Roundheads of Barbados (Georgetown, British Guiana, 1887), 34–36. Henry Winthrop must have returned to England before receiving this letter. The letter of Thomas Fones of April 2, 1629, printed below, shows that at that date he had already been in London for some time.

2.

Captain John Powell the elder. He first claimed Barbados for England in 1625, and carried thither the second body of emigrants in 1627 in the Peter, following the earlier party in the William and John, including Henry Winthrop, who arrived at the island February 17, 1627, under his brother Captain Henry Powell. V. T. Harlow, A History of Barbados (Oxford, 1926), 4, 6; Acts of the Privy Council of England, Colonial Series, I. 114, no. 185, April 5, 1627.

3.

Captain Henry Powell, mentioned in Vol. I. December 17, 1628, a letter of marque was issued to him and others, owners of the Peter, of London, 120 tons, Henry Powell, master. Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, 1628–1629, 441. February 26, 1628–29, he arrived at Barbados and restored for the time the authority of the interests headed by Sir William Courteen, the merchant prince, as against the claims of James Hay, Earl of Carlisle, a spendthrift favorite of the Stuarts. On the struggle between the opposing parties, see Harlow, Barbados, 3–14.

4.

Savage in his editions omits “If you sende . . . well, enough of this.”

5.

MS. “theires” cancelled, “their” interlined.

6.

Concluded at Susa, April 24, 1629.

7.

The Dutch admiral, Piet Heyn, who as a captive had served four years in the Spanish galleys, took the treasure fleet at Matanzas Bay, east of Havana, September 8, 1628, and reached Holland with his prizes in November. The gold, silver, indigo, sugar, and logwood were sold in the Netherlands for 15,000,000 guilders. C. H. Haring, Trade and Navigation between Spain and the Indies in the Time of the Hapsburgs (Cambridge, Mass., 1918), 237–239.

8.

According to the official record sent to England, King Frederick and Frederick Henry were returning from their visit to the fleet, January 7 (new style, 17), 1629, when their vessel came into collision with a much larger one and immediately sank, all on board perishing except the king, who was saved by a sailor. After “Kinge” Winthrop first wrote “swamme to shore, but it is reported he is dead since,” then crossed it out. See Vol. I. 175, note 7 178, note 3 ; Mary A. E. Green, Elizabeth, Electress Palatine and Queen of Bohemia (London, 1909), 266–268, with, references.

9.

Sir Nathaniel Barnardiston (1588–1653) of Kedington, co. Suffolk, famous Puritan, a leader of the popular party and a close friend of Winthrop. Vol. I. 336, note 30 337, note 2 ; Suffolk Institute of Archaeology, Proceedings , IV. 123–182.

10.

Sir William Spring (d. 1638) of Pakenham, co. Suffolk, son and heir of John and Anne (Trelawney) Spring, succeeded his father in 1601, being still under age; high sheriff of Suffolk, 1621–22; knight of the shire in the Parliament of 1628–29. Between him and John Winthrop there existed a warm friendship. See infra, pp. 203–206. Visitation of Suffolke, J. J. Howard, Ed., I. 192, 202; Visitations of Suffolk, W. C. Metcalfe, Ed., 167–168.

11.

“On January 2 [1627–28] orders had been given that the prison doors should be opened to those who had been confined for their refusal to pay the loan. Seventy-six persons in all, some imprisoned, some in banishment in different counties, were permitted to return home, but we may be certain that not one of the whole number felt the slightest gratitude for the word which had unbarred the doors closed upon them by the decree of arbitrary power.” S. R. Gardiner, History of England, VI. 225–226.

12.

Sir Francis Barrington, baronet, friend of Winthrop and stanch opposer of arbitrary government, died July 3, 1628. He married Joan Cromwell, aunt of Oliver Cromwell, the Protector. Joan Altham, his granddaughter, was one of Winthrop's clients. Vol. I. 337, 367, note 9 368, note 3 ; and several references in the present volume.

13.

Son of Sir Thomas and Alice (Winthrop) Mildmay of Barnes, Springfield, co. Essex, and cousin of John Winthrop. Numerous references in Vol. I.

14.

Brampton Gurdon of Assington, on whom see references in Vol. I. particularly page 64.

John Freeman to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Freeman, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1629-02-07

To his approved good frend Mr. Jno: Winthrope Gent: del In Vennice
In Constantinople: 7: February 1628–29.2 Mr. Winthrop, and my approved good frend,

my last letter, bare date the 12. of January; in answere to yours from the Gastles and Gallipoli;3 and therinclosed sending you, the Draught of my Statues att Chius, wishing you to shewe it, vpp and Downe, in Ittaly as you went, and if any Did proffer any mony for the things them selfes, I desired you to aduise mee, this was the effect of my last. Since which tyme, wee haue had no newes of you neither by letters nor reports, but our hopes is you haue a good passage, and by this, are att Vennice arriued, from whence I may 70shortly, I hope expect your letters, then the which nothing would be more gratefull to me; for occurrences, either, private or publique, nothing of note, hath succeeded since your Departure, if you had remained heere till nowe, you should haue had, a comodious passage for Jerusalem, the which by mr. Hamlton sic the scotch Gent: is Imbraced, and within this three Dayes, is to Departe, his passage is on a Gaily for Cyprus, vnder conduct of the Basa of that place, and from thence is recommended vnto certayne Greek calogeroes4 (by the Patriarch5) that goe in his company, a better occatione could nott haue happned in seaven yeares, and then hee's like to come thither Just at Easter, the tyme of all the Ceremonies. Thus wishing vs a happie meeting agayne, either here, or in England or in bothe places, comitt you to Gods Diuine protection restinge, Your true frend and true servant to command

John Freman.

I pray present my seruice vnto mr. Price, mr. Throckmorton, mr. Mildmey etc.

1.

W. Au. 36; L. and L. , I. 270–271. For Freeman, see Vol. I. 403, 409, 411.

2.

Letters from the Continent are usually dated according to the Gregorian Calendar, which was then ten days in advance of the Julian, the latter being used in England until 1752.

3.

Printed in Vol. I. 417–418.

4.

Caloyer, from late Greek καλόγηρος “venerable,” “A Greek monk, especially of the order of St. Basil.” N.E.D.

5.

Cyrillus Lucaris, elected patriarch of Constantinople in 1621, murdered in 1638; a reforming prelate of the Greek church. Robert Charles Winthrop ( L. and L. , I. 268) says “we find among” the papers of John Winthrop, Jr., “a careful copy, in his own hand, of a ' Relation of the practizes of the Jesuites against Cyrillus, Patriarch of Constantinople, and the cause of their banishment, penned by Sir Thomas Rowe, knt: English Ambassadour at Constantinople, 1627,' with a brief addition of his own.” We have not yet been able to discover this manuscript. The same document, however, dated February 10 (o.s.), 1627–28, is printed in The Negotiations of Sir Thomas Roe in his Embassy to the Ottoman Porte, from the Year 1621 to 1628 Inclusive (London, 1740), 758–763, with a covering letter of February 22 to Charles I.