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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2Note: you've followed an index reference to a note that, due to changes between the print and digital editions, may no longer be on page 70. Please look at all notes at the end of the document or documents on page 70.

John Freeman to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Freeman, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1629-02-07

To his approved good frend Mr. Jno: Winthrope Gent: del In Vennice
In Constantinople: 7: February 1628–29.2 Mr. Winthrop, and my approved good frend,

my last letter, bare date the 12. of January; in answere to yours from the Gastles and Gallipoli;3 and therinclosed sending you, the Draught of my Statues att Chius, wishing you to shewe it, vpp and Downe, in Ittaly as you went, and if any Did proffer any mony for the things them selfes, I desired you to aduise mee, this was the effect of my last. Since which tyme, wee haue had no newes of you neither by letters nor reports, but our hopes is you haue a good passage, and by this, are att Vennice arriued, from whence I may 70shortly, I hope expect your letters, then the which nothing would be more gratefull to me; for occurrences, either, private or publique, nothing of note, hath succeeded since your Departure, if you had remained heere till nowe, you should haue had, a comodious passage for Jerusalem, the which by mr. Hamlton sic the scotch Gent: is Imbraced, and within this three Dayes, is to Departe, his passage is on a Gaily for Cyprus, vnder conduct of the Basa of that place, and from thence is recommended vnto certayne Greek calogeroes4 (by the Patriarch5) that goe in his company, a better occatione could nott haue happned in seaven yeares, and then hee's like to come thither Just at Easter, the tyme of all the Ceremonies. Thus wishing vs a happie meeting agayne, either here, or in England or in bothe places, comitt you to Gods Diuine protection restinge, Your true frend and true servant to command

John Freman.

I pray present my seruice vnto mr. Price, mr. Throckmorton, mr. Mildmey etc.

1.

W. Au. 36; L. and L. , I. 270–271. For Freeman, see Vol. I. 403, 409, 411.

2.

Letters from the Continent are usually dated according to the Gregorian Calendar, which was then ten days in advance of the Julian, the latter being used in England until 1752.

3.

Printed in Vol. I. 417–418.

4.

Caloyer, from late Greek καλόγηρος “venerable,” “A Greek monk, especially of the order of St. Basil.” N.E.D.

5.

Cyrillus Lucaris, elected patriarch of Constantinople in 1621, murdered in 1638; a reforming prelate of the Greek church. Robert Charles Winthrop ( L. and L. , I. 268) says “we find among” the papers of John Winthrop, Jr., “a careful copy, in his own hand, of a ' Relation of the practizes of the Jesuites against Cyrillus, Patriarch of Constantinople, and the cause of their banishment, penned by Sir Thomas Rowe, knt: English Ambassadour at Constantinople, 1627,' with a brief addition of his own.” We have not yet been able to discover this manuscript. The same document, however, dated February 10 (o.s.), 1627–28, is printed in The Negotiations of Sir Thomas Roe in his Embassy to the Ottoman Porte, from the Year 1621 to 1628 Inclusive (London, 1740), 758–763, with a covering letter of February 22 to Charles I.

Arthur Tyndal to John Winthrop1
Tyndal, Arthur Winthrop, John

1629-02-10

To his louinge Brother Mr. John Winthrope at Mr. Downeinges house in Bishoppes court in Fleet street
Sir,

For ought I can heare Mathew Aliston2 intendeth not to proceede in the prosecucion of the Wardship: of his grandchilde, lead awaie with an opinion, that he is not warde, but cometh in by purchase: The case is, this at the worst; Tho: Fowle3 maketh a feffment, to the vse of himselfe, for life, and after to the vse of his wife for life, and after to the vse of the heires of their two bodies between them engendered with remainder ouer. I cannot 71see but that the heire is in by discent to be warde. Yow may see the limitacion in the office of younge Fowle. My humble suite is that yow would be pleased to sound the resolucion of the cort of wards-men herein. And if Aliston hath ouerslipped his tyme, yow would be pleased to exhibite a petition, in my name, or in some others to my vse, for to finde the wardshippe and to purchase it to my vse. Herein yow shall not onelie gratifye your selfe; but binde him euer to yow, that desireth your Welfare as well as his owne, and to be inrolled in the list of those that write themselues Your faithfull and louinge brother

Arth: Tyndale: Chelmeshoes 10th of Febr. 1628–29.
1.

W. 4. 66; 5 Collections , I. 188–189. Arthur Tyndal was a brother of Margaret Winthrop. Vol. I. 181–182, etc.

2.

See page 42, note 2 43, note 7 , supra.

3.

See page 40, note 1 43, note 4 , supra.