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Saterday 10: Ap
Winthrop, John

1630-04-10

The winde at E: and by n: a handsome gale with faire weather: by 7: in the morninge we were ouer against Plimmouthe.

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About noone the winde slacked, and we were come within sight of the Lizard, and towardes night it grewe verye Calme, and a great fogge, so as our shippes made no waye.

this afternoone mr. Hurlston the master of the Jewell came aboard our shippe, and our Capt went in his skiffe aboard the Ambrose and the Neptune of which one mr. Andrewe cancelled and written in again above Aprill Cole was master there he was tould that the Barke Warwicke,1 was taken by the Dunkerks for she came single out of the Downes about 14: dayes since, intendinge to come to vs to the Wight, but was never heard of since. She was a pretye Shippe of about 80: tuns and 10: peeces of ordinance and was sentt out by Sir Ferdinando Gorge, Capt mason2 and others for discoverye of the great Lake in N: E:3 so to have intercepted the trade of Beauer: the master of her was one mr. Weatherell whose father was master of one of the Sh Cattle shippes, which we lefte at Hampton.

This daye 2: yonge men fallinge at oddes and fightinge, contrarye to the orders, which we had published and sett vp in the shippe, were adiudged to walke vpon the decke till night with their handes bounde behinde them, which accordingly was executed: and another man for vsinge contemptuous speeches in our presence, was layd in boltes till he submitted him selfe and promised open Confession of his offence. I should have noted before that the daye we sett sayle from the Cows, my sone Hen: Winthrop went on shore with one of my servantes to fetche an oxe and 10: weathers which he had provided for our shippe and there went on shore with them mr. Pelham4 and one of his servantes they sent the Cattle aboard, but returned not themselves: about 3: dayes after my servant and a servant of mr. Pelhams came to vs to yarmouthe, and tould vs, they were all cominge to vs in a boat the day before, but the winde was so strong against them, as they were Aprill. forced on shore in the night, and the 2: servantes came to yarmouthe 245by lande, and so came on shipborde, but my sone and mr. Pelham (we heard) went back to the Cowes, and so to Hampton, we expected them 3: or 4: dayes after, but they came not to vs, so we have lefte them behinde, and suppose they will come after in mr. Goffes5 shippes, being we were verye sorye they had putt themselues vpon suche inconvenience, when they were so well accommodated in our shippe. this was not noted before, because we expected daylye their returne: and vpon this occasion, I must adde heere one observation, that we have manye yonge gentlemen in our shippe, who behave themselues well, and are Comformable to all good orders. Opposite the next sentence, in the margin, is Sunday Ap: II.. About 10: at night it cleered vp with a freshe gale at n: and by w: so we stood on our Course merylye.

1.

The Warwick afterwards turned up at Boston, according to an entry in the Journal for December 14, 1630. For an interesting account of this ship, see New England Historical and Genealogical Register, XXI. 223

2.

For full accounts of these men, see James Phinney Baxter, Ed., Sir Ferdinando Gorges and his Province of Maine (Boston, The Prince Society, 1890), and Charles Wesley Tuttle, Ed., Captain John Mason, the Founder of New Hampshire (Boston, The Prince Society, 1887).

3.

Lake Champlain.

4.

Probably William Pelham, a brother of Herbert. Savage says he resided in New England 1630–1647; a William Pelham appears in the list of those desiring to be made freemen, October 19, 1630. Records of Massachusetts, I. 79. William Pelham witnesses the note of Henry Winthrop (see below) dated April 12, 1630. See N.E. Hist. and Gen. Reg., XXXIII. 289, and Banks, The Winthrop Fleet, 85. Mr. Pelham was apparently a young man about the same age as Henry Winthrop. See Miscellaneous Notes, page 274.

5.

See supra, page 178, note 9 179, note 16 , and Journal for October 29, 1630.

Sundaye Ap: 11.
Winthrop, John

1630-04-11

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The winde at n: and by w: a verye stiffe gale. about 8: in the morninge beinge getten paste Sille,1 and standinge to the w: Southe w: corrected from Southe and by w: we mett 2: small shippes, which fallinge in among vs, and the admirall cominge vnder our Lee, we let him passe but the Jewell and Ambrose perceivinge the other to be a brasill man and to take the winde of vs, shott at them, and made them stoppe and fall after vs, and sent a skiffe abord them, to knowe what they were, our Capt fearinge least some mistake might arise, and least they should take them for enemyes, which were freindes, and so through the vnrulynesse of the mariners some wrong might be doone them, Caused his skiffe to be heaved out and sent mr. Greves2 one of his mates and our Pilott (a discreet man) to see how thinges were, who returned soone after and brought with him the master of one of the shippes and mr. Lowe and mr. Hurlston. when they were come aboard vs, they agreed to sende for the Captaine, who Came and shewed his Commission from the Prinse of Orange. In Conclution he Aprill. proved to be a Dutche man a man of warre of flushinge, and the other shippe was a price he had taken laden with sugar and Tobacko, so we sent them aboard their Shippes again and held on our Course. In this tyme (which hindred vs 5: or 6: leagues) the Jewell and the Ambrose came foule of eache other, so as we muche feared the issue, but throughe Godes 246mercye they came well off again onely the Jewell had her foresayle torne, and one of her Anchors broken This occasion, and the sicknesse of our minister and people, putt vs all out of order this daye so as we could have no sermons.

1.

The Scilly Isles.

2.

This Mr. Graves was mate of the Talbot. For possible identifications, see the entry in the Journal under the date of June 3, 1635 , also printed in D.J.W. , and Charles E. Banks, The Planters of the Commonwealth (Boston, 1930), passim. For the signatures of Thomas Graves, the admiral, and Thomas Graves, the engineer, see Richard Frothingham, Jr., The History of Charlestown, Massachusetts (Boston, 1845), 140.