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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2

John Winthrop, Jr., to John Winthrop1
Winthrop, John, Jr. Winthrop, John

1630-01-18

To the Worshipfull his very loving father John Winthrop Esqr. dd at mr. Downings house in Peterborough Court over against the Conduict in fleet street. London
Sir,

My humble duty remembred I receyved your letters, reioycing much to vnderstand of the Continuance of your welfare, wee are heere (God be praised) all in good health. I am glad you have made an end with my brothers businesse vpon so good termes; he and she are both very glad of it, it would have bred much trouble if it could not now have beene put of, besides what hinderance it would have bene to the intorn. I was last weeke at Colchester with mr. Heath the Kinges workman, who made the fort at Langer point,2 I have now a perfect plot therof with the dementions of the whole and partes, I will have it ready against you come downe.

I have now made a rude modell (as only to shew, that it is feasable) of that wind motion, which I tould you of, then only imagining it speculatively but now have seene the experience of it, and doe affirme that an Instrument may be made to move with the wind horizontally to equall if not to exeed the ordinary verticall motion of the windmill sailes, both in swiftnesse, and force, for the winges of it (which may be eyther 4: 6, or 8, or as many as the workman will) in the one semicircle shalbe allwais with their broad superficies oposite to the wind, the other semicircle (allowing only such bredth as for strength the timbers of the winges shall require) shall be in respect, only liniarily oposite to the same, and where there is any broad superficies pressed vpon by the violence of windes we may conceive the force it carrieth, by the great weight that it moveth, as shipes etc. and where it is placed vpon a center, and farr distant from the same, we may iudge with what violence it would whirle round, by the effect it worketh vpon shipes sailing close by a wind (which tendeth towards a round motion save that it continually as it declineth changeth his center, and falleth on a new one) that sometyme through the force of it, it oversetteth them though poised with reasonable weight, swiftnesse much sic needes proceed proportionably from force. I conceive it may be aplied to many laborious vses as any kind of milles Corne milles saw miles etc., and I thinke a cornemill of this to performe with the ordinary verticall milles may be made for little more Cost then a good horse mill, and so may hold proportionably in the other 194sortes as saw milles oyle milles etc. which are not made eyther for wind or water without great cost; for this may be made as low as the workman will, wheras the verticall milles must be made very hye, which maketh them so chargeable: And one spetiall property wilbe in them that they allwaies stand right for the wind whersoever it bloweth: If there may be made any vse of it, I desire New England should reape the benifit for whose sake it was invented. Et soli deo gloria.

heere was to day a youth from Halsted to be enterteyned for New England, but knowing you were full I bid him not loose his labour to come any more to speake with you etc. I pray remember my duty and love to my vncle and aunt Downing, with my love to my Cosens and freindes. thus desiring your blessing and praiers I Commend you to Godes protection and rest Your obedient sonne

John Winthrop Grot. Jan: 18: 1629–30.
1.

W. 1. 69; L. and L. , I. 367–369; 5 Collections , VIII. 23–24.

2.

Landguard fort, on the Suffolk side of the mouth of the Stour, erected under James I to defend the entrance to Harwich harbor. See page 178, note 6 179 note 12 , and page 277, note 2 281 note 6 .

Henry Winthrop to John Winthrop1
Winthrop, Henry Winthrop, John

1630-01-18

To the Worshipfull my very loving father John Winthrop Esqr. dd at mr. Downings house in Peterborough Court over against the Conduict in Fleet Street. London
Sir,

I and my Wife rememberes our humble duties to you: I thought good to wright to you to putt you in remembrance of providinge sume hallfe a 100 or a 100 of dealle bordes for your viage which I thincke will be very vsefull both for the sarguard sic of your goodes and for other present nessessary occationes at your cominge a shore the saeguard of your goodes will countervaille the charge you may by them for 5 li. the 100 but thay will be sume what moree chargeable for the fraught of them then other goodes wilbe: before that you doe by them I thincke it ware good to speake with the master of the shipe both for the stowinge of them and the charge of the fraught: and I thincke it ware good to by a furkine of buird lyme for the takinge of fowle which you may bye for a smalle matter: I haue provided those thinges that you left order with me for saue the wheate mealle which my mother coulld not spare: for otemealle worn away three inches at the fold sceam as pure whight and as good porworn butter we must haue 4 firkines worn hogsed: for to cary it in firkines is fare the worst way for I haue sceine the exsperyence of it that one pound of hogsed butter is worth 2 of firkine butter 195when it comes a shore for the heat of the hould does desoullfe it to oyle in furkines and so it will not kepe when as the other will cut farme: and if you doe by any at london that I ame sartine wilbe the best way to put it up my brother John did tell me that you had soulld the lande my wife and I thancke you for it and are very gladd of it for by this meanes I hope I shall wayght of you in your viage to nue England and by godes assistance thare to macke provision before my wifes cominge ouer she is very willinge to haue me goe before hur. Therfor Sir maye it please you four words cancelled wilest that you are in towne to take order for sume cattell for us so many as you shall thinke fitting for us to carry worn provisiones as you shall thincke fitting for us we wilbe thanckfull to you: here is no nuse: we all blessed be god continue in health as you left us hopinge that your sellfe doe the same with my prayers vnto god for the preservation there of: one word cancelled cravinge your blessing I rest your obedyent sonne

Henry Winthrop. Groton this 18 of January 1629 –30

I pray remember mine and my wifes dutye to my vncle Downinge and ant and our loues to our cosenes and mr. Dudly: my sister mary and my brother John and the rest of my brotheres rememberes ther duties to you

1.

W. 1. 68; 5 Collections , VIII. 182–183.