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John Winthrop to Willem Kieft1
JW Kieft, Willem

1644-07-15

Sir,

Yours of the 28 of the last mo: I received, which I imparted to our generall Court being then Assembled: who returne you all respectiue thanks, for that sincerity which they apprehende in you towards vs: and that neighbourly Correspondency, which you hold towards vs and our people, who resorte to you vpon their occasions, and which we see you are willinge still to continue: nor do we otherwise beleeve, then as you professe, that you are vnwillingly drawne into this Conversation, with our freinds in those parts: nor can we blame you that in your faithfullnesse to that state which have sett you in place and reposed trust in you you stand strictly to maintain that which you apprehende to be their right, in requiring due recompense for iniuryes: and on the other side we earnestly desire, you would be so perswaded of our integrity and care, to give all humble respecte to the High and mighty Lords the states, as we would not wittingly be countenancers of vnrighteousness, nor give any iust occasion of offense or displeasure to so Potent a state, in respect of whose power and greatnesse so poore and weak a people as we, are of no value: but for so much as you are not ignorant that our brethren of Hartford doe plead the Justice of their Cause as your selfe and your predecessor have also doon in your former lettres to vs of 11 feb. last, you 2 were pleased to discourse prudently and at large concerning the matters in difference etc: yet in illegible what they allso alledge on their parts and the proofes not yet produced on either side, we doe not know what Answ: you can expect from vs other then formerly.3 But wheras the Commissioners of all our Colonyes are to be at Hartford, the last of August 4 (by the English account) if you would please to send Commissioners thither, to treate with them about the differences It would be very acceptable to vs, and (we are well assured) to all our Confederates, as the most hopefull waye, 489to bring both your self, and vs all to a right vnderstanding of whatever is in variance either in point of Right, or of Iniury: wherby they might be better prepard for a peaceable and finall issue, in such a Course as to your wisdome may seeme most equall and expedient, according to such offer, as they have formerly made. So desiring you to accept this Tender of our good will to you, with our poore (but faithfull) advice, for hastening soe good ende to all vnfriendly conversations betweene yourself and our deare freinds and brethren: we commend you and your Affaires to the gratious protection and direction of the Allmighty So I take leave and rest at your service in all friendly offices

Jo: W: D: G: by the approval of the Court Boston N: E: (5) called July: 15, 1644
1.

Massachusetts Archives, II. 364. For Winthrop's mention of this letter, see Journal, II. 176–177; also printed in D.J.W. .

2.

Due to the nature of the binding of the volume in which this manuscript is contained, it is not possible to see all the words. In this and in similar succeeding instances where the context is perfectly clear, words have been supplied.

3.

Acts of the Commissioners of the United Colonies in New England, I. 13.

4.

This was the date named by Governor Winthrop in a canceled sentence of his draft of this letter. The commissioners actually met on September 5, 1644. Acts of the Commissioners of the United Colonies in New England, I. 16.

William Coddington to John Winthrop1
Coddington, William JW

1644-08-05

Honered Sir,

Yours of the (8) 10–43 I haue receaued filled with exsamples of the Judgments of god of the Duch and English that fell by the Indeans2 for the English yow mention their forsakeing the fellowship of gods people and ordenances and the vnseasonablenes of seeking of greate things the lord plucking vp what he hath planted, etc. Though I might render some excuses, yet I forbeare and doe acknowledge my neclecte In not writeing unto yow longe ere this, and returneing a thankefull acknowledgement of your loue in seting before me such graue exhortations tornlemations. let the righteous smite me it shall not torn my head noe it shall be a healeing balsome to torn I haue forsaken yourselfe and others againest my own torn posses in distance of place, yet I hope and liue by his grace never shall in affection till my dyeing day, and the ordenances with yow both in Church and Common wealth are to me the ordenances of the lord Jesus. And the lord hath begunne to let me see by experience that a mans comfort doth not depend in the multetude of those things he doth possese, the lord haueing this last winter taken from me A larg Corne Barne which did cost me aboue, or aboute, 150li building, my farme howse 12 Oxen 8 Cowes 6 other beasts in which howses was my Corne for seed and spending and paying my debts, the fyer breaking forth in the night, neither beeding nore howshould stuffe, nore so much as my servants wering Cloth no thing but the shertes of their backes 490was saued, and liues to the valew of 4 or 500li. And yet blessed be his name, he is the portion of my sowle, I shall not wante, he hathe by one providence or other provided for me a considerable suplye so that I haue enough blessed be his name. And being nowe in writeing, I shall make bould to ade a word to 3 or 4 particulers in yours to mr. Brenton and mr. Balstone (my loueing friends) and in them to me yow desire they much consider in what relation they stand to the Church and Common wealth with yow for the Church to answer for itselfe we being not to torn doe look at that Church meeting at mr. Balstones torn which I was advised to remaine and commended to the grace of god torn christ Jesus in so doeing, and the sermon concerneing of it the torn lord does that wher ther wer not churches to commend ther bretheren vnto ther they might commend them to the grace of god, etc., to carie with it the force of a dismishon which is not my light alone, but of the reverent and larned.3 I desire that this lynne of devishon was remoued, that I might have such free acsesse to all as to see their faces with comfort, and to partake with yow in the ordenances. 2ly. For the Common wealth the difference arose about mr. Wheelwright banishment of which he is releassed (as I am informed) but if it was a meanes in rayseing any vnquietnes in the Commonwealth I shall vpon information indevor to giue satisefaction, the lord so helping me.

3. For Gorton as he came ther to be of the Island before I knew of it, and is here againest my mind, soe shall he not be by me protected. I could haue hartely desired for the good I professe of both plantations that we had not bene reiected in alyence with yow aboute the Indeans, which now the generaletie here will be averse from. the trewth is here is a partye which doe adheare vnto Gorton and his Company, in both the plantations, and Judge them so much strength to the place which be neither frinds to yow nore vs. Now the trewth is I desire to haue either such alience with yourselues or Plimouth one or both as might be safe for vs all. I haue my cheefe intrest the Island it being bought to me and my frinds, and how inconvenient it might be if it were possesed by an Enemye lying in the heart of the plantations and convenient for shiping I cannot but see but I want both Counsell and Strength to effecte what I desire. I desire to heare from yow and that you would burye what I write in deepe silence, for what I write I never imparted to any, nor would to yow had I the least doubt of your faythfullnes, that it should be vttered to my preiudice.

for Morton he was insinuateing who was for the king at his first comeing to Portesmouth, and would report to such as he Judged to be of his mynd he 491was glad he meet with so many Caveleres. to Mr. Hart (as I am informed) of Cohannet he discovered some thing in this way, and after doubted he was not trew, and he had lands to disposse of to his followers in each province and from Cape Ann to Cape Codd was one he did and dispossed of some to Lambert Woodward. my Tenant Gould was his host howse, he being much taken with him, and towld me which I will afferme of my oath that he had land to disposse of in each plantation a torn his son John some Land, and that he had wronge in the bay to the valew of 200li and mayd bitter Complaints therof but Morton would let it rest as he tould me till the Governour came over to right him and did intimate he knew whose roste his spits and Jackes turned etc., but I feare tediousnes and therefor with the tender of my love to the Governour yourselfe mr. Dudlye and who else remember me, I take leaue and rest. yours

Wm. Coddington Newport Aug. 5, 1644

Pesecus nore Canonecus haue not sent vnto me sence I reiected a present of 30 fingers and thumes after their first attempt.

Osemecome was last satterday at my howse and doth say he is all one hart with torn and sayth that Canonecus sent to him to borrow some peeces he hath to goe agine torn this next weeke which he refussed to lend. I tould him he did well so to doe and to torn he knew torn Vale.

1.

Massachusetts Archives, II. 4–5; Chapin, Documentary History of Rhode Island, II. 176–179.

2.

For Winthrop's account of Anne Hutchinson's death at the hands of the Indians, see Journal, II. 137–138; also printed in D.J.W. .

3.

See Coddington's earlier reference to this subject, pages 245–246, above.