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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 4

Ezekiel Rogers to John Winthrop1
Rogers, Ezekiel JW

1640-10-05

To his much honoured freinde John Winthrop Esqr. these present
Worshipfull and Worthy Sir,

vpon my motion at the last Generall Court for an Exposition of our Grant (occasioned by the questioning of some) Mr. Broadstreete desiring. some of the land granted to vs on the one side, and 290Mr. Woodbridge on the other, opposition was made contrary to my exspectation, and noise raised to my greife; though the lesse because we were but the occasion, and others the cause. Yet to preuent euen that also, if it be possible, I am bolde to make this addresse to yourselfe; rather then to come personally to the Court, except I shall heare it to be necessary.

You best knowe how oft we expressed ourselues, and how plainly, concerning our desired bounds, as Ipswich Riuer and Merimack; without which we woulde vpon no termes accept of a Plantation here. Ipswich men desiring our neighbourhood, coulde shewe vs little desireable here (except we purchased it at a deare rate) but the Name of Merimack and some considerable places there, as a Neck of land, and the like. This first to your selfe, and after to others being expressed, you were all forwarde to testify your loues (as before, so) therupon, and we left the procuring of the Grant to yourselfe, who doubted not, but more, rather then lesse, (if it were desired) woulde be yeelded to. Wherupon I wrote many letters to my freinds in England, wherin I tolde them precisely of our bounds; and the sound of Merimack we made not a little vse of. Herupon we proceeded simply to our worke, and made a too-costly purchase: digested (though hardly) our too much straitning towards Ipswich etc. Now therfore to heare that questioned, which was especially looked at in our Grant, I say after all these our costly proceedings, your wisdome will thinke how welcome it is to vs: Besides my owne credite, which hitherto God in mercy hath maintained, must be now of no value among my freinds. Two things especially seeme to be objected to vs. First the largenes of our Plantation, if we haue our desire. To this I say, First, suppose it so, yet no lesse was accepted of vs. Secondly, I say, so farre as I can discouer, no plantation hath had lesse granted of the Court, though we haue our desire. For our largenes comes from our owne purses, or the gift of those that desired our neighbourhood, and would incourage vs in the purchase. Neither doe we purpose to keepe this lande vnimployed so long by halfe, as others haue done, if God prosper vs.

We are loth to say all we might, except we be vrged. The second thing objected is, the words of the Grant, as it is recorded, that mention (they say) only eight miles euery waye. I answere that I suppose that might (if it be so) arise from hence, that many in the Court did not doubt, but that eight miles did afford vs our desired bounds: but this we say, that if we could not haue them vnder eighteene miles, we were to haue so much as did reach them. And it seemes the Register only looked at the Text not comment. And it wilbe prooued by good wittnesse, if neede be; That Newbery men desiring two miles more by Merimack, your selfe instantly replyed (which I heard 291hisce auribus) that that could not be, because it was granted already to vs. So that the notion of eight miles was not the main matter, but Merimacke.

Sir, I am hartely sory thus farre to trouble you: but your wisdome will see a necessity, and therfore pardon. I humbly beseech you to acquaint our worthy Gouernour herwith, and so many of the Court, as you see fitt, or the whole.2 I am sory also to thinke how harsh such things are like to be in England and Quillipiake, as they are like to be carryed thither quickly, if they be noised in open Court, so that it were well if that were preuented. It hath bene a trouble of late to my poore neighbours (though a quiet people) to heare of this, after their purchase and building, and returne from Quillipyake. Especially, since they heard that Mr. Broadstreete plainly in open Court saide he exspected land there, and therupon opposed vs; as I haue signifyed to himselfe, and doe thus write, because he still saide he intended to doe so. Though happily, if your selfe doe satisfy him, he will forbeare. But I forgett your trouble, therfore againe crauing pardon, with my seruice I rest Yours to commande

Ez: Rogers Rowley, 5 of 8, 1640
1.

W. 3. 58; 4 Collections , VII. 215–217.

2.

The General Court took action on October 7, 1640, to satisfy Rowley's grievances regarding the boundaries of the town. Records of Massachusetts, I. 305; Journal, II. 15–16; also printed in D.J.W. .

Edward Winslow to John Winthrop1
Winslow, Edward JW

1640-10-10

To the worshippfull his much honored Friend Joh. Winthrop Esqr. at his howse at Boston these be delivered
Sir,

By the enclosed you may perceiue the ernest request of your unfaithfull servant Luxford who hath no lesse but much more importuned me since I received his lines using Pauls plea for Onesimus etc. but you know the man and his manner of importunity, pleading his paines and care so many yeares, and however his faylings were great yet I perceiue he thinks his paines to be greater and that in his extreame necessity you should take compassion on him, but I refer him to your mercy and yet would haue you consider well what you doe. The truth is I thinke he is very pore: for he worketh not, yet offered me his labor this harvest for his dyet which for some reasons I durst not accept but pitty the man. He hath taken a Farme of Mr. Hanbury which was Mr. Browns at 40li per annum, but how he will pay it or raise it I know not, especially when he hath neither stock security foode nor credit. He saith 292there are some in the bay that will affourd him some help but who they are or what it is I know not.

I suppose you haue heard what was the issue of the day of humiliacion concerning the eleccion of Mr. Chancey;2 But things are like still to goe ill for on the 2d day of this weeke a mocion was made by Mr. Paddy and some that inordinately cleaue to him for his setling at Jones river some three miles from Plimouth who purposeth there to lay the foundacion of an Academy, and reade the Arts to some that are fitt for that purpose that so they may also haue use of his gifts. I manifested my dislike to the Governour who still pressed his gifts, but I told him they must still retaine his errors etc.3 with his gifts which were like to weaken if not destroy both the Congregacions of Plymouth and Duxburrow being seated in the midst equally between both having already manifested his judgement to be more rigid then any Separatists I ever read or knew; holding it lawfull (nay a duty for ought I heare) to censure any that shall oppose the major part of the Church whether it be in eleccion of officers or receiving in or casting out of members if they will not be convicted and yield by which meanes 10 or more may be cast out to receiue in one. But what will be the issue of these things the Lord onely knoweth; I feare the Lord hath a quarrell with us, and the rather becawse Mr. Bradford and Mr. Reyner are both drawn to yield to the mocion which is so contrary in my apprehension to the peace of the Churches, especially when I consider the confidence or rather selfewillednes of the man. Truly Sir I conceiue if you conceale how you come by your informacion, and giue your christian advice to Mr. Bradford spedily about it you may be the instrument of much good. For my selfe however I am ready to demand a dismission from them, yet I simpathise with them and desire their welfare as much as ever, and for me to oppose he hath such a party as I might rather expect dismission with a Censure then otherwise: But entreating you to conceale your author, and commending you and it with all yours to the blessing of the blessed God with many thanks for your last loue take leaue remayning Yours till death

Edw: Winslow Careswell this 10th of 8th 1640

Mr. Blindman salutes you.

1.

W. 2. 91; 4 Collections , VI. 169–170.

2.

The Reverend Charles Chauncy, at this time assistant to the Reverend John Rayner in the Plymouth church and later (1641–1654) minister of Scituate and (1654–1672) President of Harvard College.

3.

For Chauncy's “errors” on the subject of baptism, see Journal, II. 321–322; D.J.W. , 322 ; Bradford, History of Plymouth, II. 300–307.