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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 3

Henry Paynter to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Paynter, Henry Winthrop, John, Jr.

1631-06

To my worthily respected Sonne Mr. John Winthrop at the howse of Mr. Emanuel Downinge at the signe of the Bishop in Peterburrow Courte neere fleete conduit these
Worthy Sir and my deere sonne,

I am very thankefull vnto you for your kinde letter this Weeke; but the newes of your soe sudden going awaye, makes vs all sad for the presente because we cannot be certayne that we shall be able to get vp vnto you, that we might comforte our hearts togeather in one meeting agayne before your departure. Yeat write once more I praye you, where and at what very tyme (if it be possible) you take shipping: and when our worthy sister and you shall be in London. Who knoweth how the Lord in his good providence may dispose of our occasions, and guide our iourney that waye.

I am not a litle troubled that my hudled hasty lynes were soe broken and obscure to occasion your mistaking in soe many particulars. 1. It was much agaynst my minde to be altogeather soe troublesome vnto you about the Lady Modye,2 and now your busines is multiplyed, I desire but onely what standeth with your leasure, and I thought a word from you might the rather move her: You know there is a band for 100li vpon my wife in your hand aboute it: and this was the mony I meante in my letter and the 2 mistake I am very sory you are not payed. We haue both of us now written very effectually vnto her. she made a kinde of promise to Edward Searle and therefore should be willing he might goe to her againe. but I would not include the letters in his but in yours. I should hope you might intreate Mr. White of White fryars out of terme to speake to her, seeing her howse is but in fetter lane, as I haue desired him by letter, and shall agayne by the nexte. And 3. I mentioned not that mony as if I doubted of the disposall for 125li of it was aduentured, the rest bestowed in Corne and sente with particular directions for the disposing of it; neyther shall we in these partes be backward to further the plantation in any thinge we may as opportunity may be offered hereafter (I know noe one place better affected toward it) but vsed it onely as a rash inducemente to gette some more particular informations from you touching the state of the place. The rather because I intend God willing to write by you, and hereafter to write you, and who knoweth who may alsoe come at length vnto you. but now I will not be ouertroublesome but contente me with my daughter 39Winthrops generall reporte in her letter that you haue very good newes from thence, and your resolution for the iourney assureth me. The Lord in mercy keepe you and my good daughter, with all your company our deere friendes and bring you safe to that place, and prosper you in it. I shall be ready to retourne you answer to your nexte letter, and soe write to your good mother. We are in health, and intreate your prayers for vs all and namely for Your father vnfeignedly affected towards you

Henry Paynter Ca. June, 1631
1.

W. 1. 87; 3 Collections , IX. 231–232.

2.

Lady Deborah Moody. For a biographical sketch, see Essex Institute Historical Collections, XXXI. 96–102.

Ursula Sherman to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Sherman, Ursula Winthrop, John, Jr.

1631-06-18

To my worthy and uery louing Brother mr. John Winthrop at Groton in Sufoke deliver
from Exeter June 18, 1631 My worthy and beloued Brother,

I am tolde by my mother and she shewed mee a letter, which you haue very kindly written to my father, that you will repaye certayne mony that was taken up in London, by reason of my troubles occasioned by gods prouiedence in that my so much Desired match with your Deerest brother,2 which the lord othewise ordarred, and broght his estate into your hands, the lord prospar it unto you and yours. I shall truly praye for you and Desire your prayers may be before the lord for mee who am lefte to passe through the miseryes of a trublesome pilgramage. I thanke you for the continuanc of your loue. my father and mother ar uery kinde unto me and will not be wanting I know in thare loue, but though the lord should greatly Increase your estate by the losse of my Deerest frieand and the lessening of my poore porsion and laying other Hindrances apon mee, yeeat shall I neuer think my loue ill settled upon one that loued me So Deearly, though he could leue me nothing but his prayers for me and the Intrust I haue in your loue, whoes kindness is so clearly manifested like the kindnesse of ruth to the leuing and to the dead. the 30 pound you writt of was taken up of my unkle talley, besides which the 10 pound my fathers man brought with him and the 5 pound of mr. Brinscely and 8 pound from my unkle Downing goeth out of that som of 50 pound in his hands which my father Paynter was willing my mother should add to my porsion which was but 2 hundred and 50 pound before for your brother. and now that is all spente exeptting uery littell, but 40in this I do submitte my selue patiently to the will of god, and take it as the least part of that great affliction. I do not mention anye of this to presse you good Brother, nether ar you bownd but as the consideration of gods Dealing, boeath with you and your brother, and mee, shall moue you. your promiseses ware your kindnes I could not disuurue deserve them, forlorne and Dessolate as I wase. yeeat thay ware comfortable in that case, and I still thank you and pray the lord to reward you. the mare I confesse I should Desire to gett Downe if it might stand with your good liking. I hope to ridde to Sutton upon her shortly. mr. Brinscely knowes how to send har downe by the carryer. I am ashamed to put all thes thing in letters which your well knowen loue and redy kindnes would preuente me in if I could but see you, nay hath preuented. my father and mother desires to see you all if it be possable, though they haue let-tell hope by resoan of my fathers Imployments. praye remembar my unfayned loue to my worthy sister your wife and my sister Elizabeth Winthrop praye scertifie her that I reseaued har louing letter and excuse me to har that I haue not now written to har. I should be uery thankefull, if you would be please to lett me here from you the mesingar of your wellfare being allwayes wellcom and much reoiysing the hart of mee your euer louing sister

Ursula Sherman

My mothar remembreth har loue to your selue and your wife and thankes you both for your kind tokens you sent har by mee. she desires to be execused for not writtin unto you at this time.

1.

W. Au. 55; Savage (1825), I. 383–384; (1853), I. 460–461; L. and L. , II. 83–85. See Winthrop Papers, II. 223–224.

2.

Forth Winthrop.