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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 3

Henry Jacie to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Jacie, Henry Winthrop, John, Jr.

1635-02

To the Worshipfull John Winthrop esq. in York
Deare Sir,

How much am I endebted to you for your great paines and love, which hath endeared you yet more unto me: If I should heare it turnes to your hurt any way, I must needs sympathize with you.

One or 2 Questions came not to my mind, which I would entreat by you to be resolvd in, vizt. seing such a company of Christians have foreintended such a one to be their Minister, and he to accept it, Whether in their fast they desire Gods directing in their choise (when they have no other fit to be chosen) or its only for Gods blessing his paines etc. Also Whether they use imposition of hands, or by whom, and when. And whether any imposition on the Elder, and by whom, or on the Deacon.

Now Sir since your going to york, I have found H. Kingsburies letter (which I could not light on) the bookes he desired me to procure him were these 3. 1 A Treatise of Faith. (I suppose The Doctrine of Faith by Mr. Jo. Rogers would be as useful for him, and about the same price.) 2 Perkins Principles. 3. The sweet Posie for Gods Saints (2d a peece, the 1 about 18d.) He writ he would pay for them. We shal be further indebted to you if you can procure the Map, the Pattents Copie, the Model of Charity,2 (also what Oath is taken) Mr. Higgisons letter, and the Petition to our Ministers for praying for them, made at their going, which is in print.3 Which of these you 189can best, with your letter, give to Mr. Overton Stationer in Popes head Alley, my good friend, and receive money of him for them, or for writing (giving him this note) that he may send them by York Cariers either to the now Lord Majors, or to Mr. John Penrose Attorney, for me. But I pray you resolve me those Questions now (for I suppose you ar not gone from York.) Remember my kind respect and love to Mr. Downing, Mr. Robt. Gurdon with Mrs. Gurdon and Mr. Edward Gurdon, and to Mr. Huison at London stone if you see him (from whom I have had letter though I have not seen him) Also in Essex and Suffolk. I am now posted. The good Lord be with you. Yours in him

Hen: Jacie Ca. February, 1634/35

I pray you Mr. Overton repay to this my friend what he hath laid out for me, and I shal see that you be repaid, either as formerly, or by my Brother Thomas Jacie, servant to Mr. Elwis in Drury lane a litle beyond Queens street.

And direct your letters etc. for me, to be left with the Lord Major of York, for so is Mr. Hodshon now.

I received your letter and compasses etc. remember me kindly to Mr. Peck. Yours

H. Jacie
1.

W. 1. 59; 1 Proceedings , XVIII. 300–301.

2.

A Modell of Christian Charity,” written by Winthrop on board the Arbella (1630). It is printed in Winthrop Papers, II. 282–295.

3.

The Humble Request of His Majesties Loyall Subjects, the Governour and the Company Late Gone for New England; to the Rest of Their Brethren, in and of the Church of England (London, 1630). It is reprinted, among other places, in Winthrop Papers, II. 231–233.

Priscilla Paynter to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Paynter, Priscilla Winthrop, John, Jr.

1635-03

To my beloved Sonne Mr. John Winthrop at Mr. Downings neere the Lion taverne in Lincolnes Inne fields by Princes street end deliver in London
My Dere Sone,

your letter cam to my hands whin I was full of sorowe so as I could not then wright for it plased god that uery weeke to take from me my dere daughter mary fones to my husbands and my grat grife and to the grife of all those that knewe her swete and louely disspossion: conserning the paymant of those monys you wright of I doe not well understand: you demand of my husban one hundered pound for which you say you haue his band: you desier to know wether he hath payed vrsula thirtie pound: we layed out aboue 190fiftie pounds and out of her portion but why we should paye her thirtie for that I see no reson: it is true ther was on hundered pound due to your dere wife which was to be payed her out of those depts which wear due to mr. fones as will apere by the deede of gift to your wife the monys that shuld haue payed this, we haue receiued but fiftie pounds of it as yet: forty 5 pounds more is in my lady mouddes hands which if you will be earnest with her for it I mak no dout but she will pay it forth with and the other 50 pounds I will pay presently, if you will be peased to giue vp my husbands band: I shuld much reioyce to see you here if it might be and if it were as conuenent for me to trauell as for you, it should not be long before I would see you and then would ther be a quick disspaich of this buisnes which other wayes will require many letters and much mistaken of on naother, for in your first letter after your brothers death you wrot that my husband should take no care for it if you could sell his land for respect to vrsula, your father in his letter wrot that you had giuen her 60 pounds or above which shee neuer knew what way unles it ware ment in your sayed letters yet if you wright that you will except of 50 pound and of 20 more when it shall be receiued of my lady moody you shall receiued the 50 pound before you goe away at the hands of my vncle tally vpon conuenant warning from you as I hop I shall intreat him by letter vpon your deliuering vp the band to him who I know will doe his vtmost with you for the rest from the lady thus desiering your answer and the presenting of my best loue to your selfe my worthy brother and sister downing I rest your louing mother

Pris: Paynter Ca. March, 1635
1.

W. 4. 27, 5 Collections , I. 71–72. For earlier correspondence dealing with the subject matter of this letter, see Henry Paynter to John Winthrop, Jr., ca. June, 1631, pages 38–39, above; Ursula Sherman to John Winthrop, Jr., June 18, 1631, pages 39–40, above; Emmanuel Downing to John Winthrop, Jr., November 2, 1631, pages 50–51, above; and Emmanuel Downing to John Winthrop, Jr., June 18, 1633, page 129, above.