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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 3

John Livingstone to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Livingstone, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1635-01-05

Killinshie 5th Januar 1634/35 Mr. Wynthorp,

Hast to bee at my charge wes the reason why I come away so abruptly th’other day. I could have been glad to have had more tyme, and so to have been more refreshed with yowr company, But I hope the tyme may come when wee may see one another in that land where a great part of my heart is already. I have made bold to send some letters that yow 188may cause bee delyvered as you go along. To three I have writen somwhat concerning yow, To Johne Stewart in Air to Mr. David Dicksone in Irvin, and to James Murray in Edinborough, To whom if yow bee pleased yow may showe yowr self and give some information how maters goes beyond Seas They are men religious and wyse, with whom yow may be free and who (I dare promise) will communicate what yow impart to them only to such and so much as yow shal think fitting. The lord whom yow serve is with yow, wilbee with yow and guyd yow the way that yow are going which shalbee the prayers of him who is Yowrs in the trewest respects

Jo: Levingstone
1.

W. Au. 83; 5 Collections , I. 206. Livingstone is mentioned by Governor Winthrop in his Journal (1. 127); printed in D.J.W., entry for July 1634 . For a biographical sketch, see D.N.B.

Henry Jacie to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Jacie, Henry Winthrop, John, Jr.

1635-02

To the Worshipfull John Winthrop esq. in York
Deare Sir,

How much am I endebted to you for your great paines and love, which hath endeared you yet more unto me: If I should heare it turnes to your hurt any way, I must needs sympathize with you.

One or 2 Questions came not to my mind, which I would entreat by you to be resolvd in, vizt. seing such a company of Christians have foreintended such a one to be their Minister, and he to accept it, Whether in their fast they desire Gods directing in their choise (when they have no other fit to be chosen) or its only for Gods blessing his paines etc. Also Whether they use imposition of hands, or by whom, and when. And whether any imposition on the Elder, and by whom, or on the Deacon.

Now Sir since your going to york, I have found H. Kingsburies letter (which I could not light on) the bookes he desired me to procure him were these 3. 1 A Treatise of Faith. (I suppose The Doctrine of Faith by Mr. Jo. Rogers would be as useful for him, and about the same price.) 2 Perkins Principles. 3. The sweet Posie for Gods Saints (2d a peece, the 1 about 18d.) He writ he would pay for them. We shal be further indebted to you if you can procure the Map, the Pattents Copie, the Model of Charity,2 (also what Oath is taken) Mr. Higgisons letter, and the Petition to our Ministers for praying for them, made at their going, which is in print.3 Which of these you 189can best, with your letter, give to Mr. Overton Stationer in Popes head Alley, my good friend, and receive money of him for them, or for writing (giving him this note) that he may send them by York Cariers either to the now Lord Majors, or to Mr. John Penrose Attorney, for me. But I pray you resolve me those Questions now (for I suppose you ar not gone from York.) Remember my kind respect and love to Mr. Downing, Mr. Robt. Gurdon with Mrs. Gurdon and Mr. Edward Gurdon, and to Mr. Huison at London stone if you see him (from whom I have had letter though I have not seen him) Also in Essex and Suffolk. I am now posted. The good Lord be with you. Yours in him

Hen: Jacie Ca. February, 1634/35

I pray you Mr. Overton repay to this my friend what he hath laid out for me, and I shal see that you be repaid, either as formerly, or by my Brother Thomas Jacie, servant to Mr. Elwis in Drury lane a litle beyond Queens street.

And direct your letters etc. for me, to be left with the Lord Major of York, for so is Mr. Hodshon now.

I received your letter and compasses etc. remember me kindly to Mr. Peck. Yours

H. Jacie
1.

W. 1. 59; 1 Proceedings , XVIII. 300–301.

2.

A Modell of Christian Charity,” written by Winthrop on board the Arbella (1630). It is printed in Winthrop Papers, II. 282–295.

3.

The Humble Request of His Majesties Loyall Subjects, the Governour and the Company Late Gone for New England; to the Rest of Their Brethren, in and of the Church of England (London, 1630). It is reprinted, among other places, in Winthrop Papers, II. 231–233.