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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 3

Stephen Bachiler to John Winthrop1
Bachiler, Stephen Wintrhop, John

1633-06-03

To the Right Worship full my very loueing Frend and our Gouernour at his house in Bostone these

The wisedome of Gods spirit direct and guide you in all your affaires, now and for ever. Amen.

Right Worship full and my loueing Frend Mr. Gouernour,

I haue sent you this inclosed letter from our Company at London to that part of our Company which was then supposed to be here, the last yere,2 to certifye you that the 4 hogsheds of pease (which are assigned to my brother Wilson, in the right of the youth that is with him3) do no way belong to him but to me and the rest of our Company, and to speake the truthe to me only and properlye by reason of the Companies debt vnto me; which all that I haue (by your favour) seazed on will not countervayle my debt by a great deale, in case I could sell the goods presently, which I know not how long they will lye and torn worse and worse before they will make any satisfaction to me. The goods which are looked after for the boye came not in the ship, wherin these pease came, but (as I take it) in the Whale, if any were sent. besides, these pease comming with my goods in the William and Frauncis (the ship wherin I came) with the 12 yards of cloth mentioned in the letter, and 200 yards of liste etc. I payde both for the Tunage of it to the ship master, and for the carryage of them from the ship to New Towne. the cloth also and the liste I tooke into my keeping, and weare of it; and wraping vp the letter amonge many others forgot to seaze vpon these pease, till within these 8 or 9 dayes reading over the letter for some other occasion, I light vpon that passage which mentioneth the pease and the clothe and liste etc. whervpon I demanded of my wife what became of these pease mentioned? She answered, certainely they are the pease which lye vnowned at New Towne, whervpon I sent to compare the markes of the letter, with the markes vpon the pease hogsheds, and found them perfectly to agree, and there vnderstood, that the pease (for want of an owner) were by your authority committed to my brother to be disposed of in right of his servant: and that this day (being the 3 of this 4th moneth) my brother sent me this message, that forasmuch as 123these pease were assigned to him by the authority of your worship and the Court, (thoughe he sawe the contents of this letter the last weeke) he would sell them, and stand answerable for the monny that they yelde. My request therefore is vnto you, that forasmuch as the pease do cleerely appeare to be no goods of the boyes, but to belonge to our Company: and that I lay claime to them (as to the rest) not in respect of my adventure, but for the debt of (neere) an hundred pownds which I lent the Company in as good gould as can be waighd with scales, and that I haue payde both for the Tunage and portage of them: and only thoroughe forgetfullnes lefte them thus longe, and diverse other circemstances of reason which I forbeare for tediousnes to vrge—that you would be pleased to prevent the withhoulding of them from the right owners, at least to stay the sale of them, forasmuch as I haue disposed part of them, and the residue are exceedingly wanting in myne owne congregation: who vpon the vnderstanding of the busynes thus comming to light haue ben earnest with me for them: and I accordingly haue graunted their requests. There being equity in all that I require (as I trust will appeare vnto you vpon the sight of that passage in the letter) I trust I shall not doubt of your vprightnes towards me, and betweene my brother and me: whose care for his servant I do much approue, tho I cannot see the meanes which he vseth to recouer his servants doubtfull goods, to be so right as I could wish. for my parte, were it my case as it is his, I should easyly yeld vpon the sight of such evidence as I conceave doth appeare, that the goods can no way belong to him. one thing more, wheras I vnderstand, that you put the last day of this weeke apart, for enquire of God to discover a great and difficult secret, we will by Gods grace assist you vpon that day in like manner. And thus with my loue service and Christian respect vnto you (with myne and my wiues harty Salutations to your blessed and beloued yokefellowe) I cease any further to trouble you; and rest, at your Service and commandment, in Christ his moste vnworthy servant

Stephen Bachiler June 3, 1633

Sir, I vnderstand since the writing of my letter, that it is conceaued that the goods of the boye came wholly or in parte to me, which if it may but probably appeare I will make 7 fould Satisfaction. Verely it is not so, nether did I (but my wife) meddle with my owne goods, and my wife sayth (from Mrs. Smyth of Watertowne) that the boyes father and an vncle of his or some such frend did adventure 10li into the Company with the boy. so that I cannot conceaue how any such goods should be extornd, but for my parte I 124 torn them; and these goods belonging to our Company, I hope they shall not be dtorn them and vse them torn.

Endorsed by Governor Winthrop: Mr. Batchelor and the Comp: Lettre.

1.

John Davis MSS., M.H.S., 1; 4 Collections , VII. 88–98. For a biographical sketch of Stephen Bachiler, who was at this time minister of the church in Lynn, see 4 Collections , VII. 88n.

2.

See letter of March 8, 1631/32, from the Company of Husbandmen to members in New England, pages 67–71, above, and also the Company’s letter to Winthrop, December 1, 1632, pages 101–103, above.

3.

John Smith, son of Francis Smith, miller. See Records of Massachusetts, I. 98.

Edward Howes to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Howes, Edward Winthrop, John, Jr.

1633-06-05

To the Worshipfull his most esteemed frind Mr. John Winthrop Junr. at Boston in N: Engl. present these
Charissime,

The intire respects I euer bare towards you constrayneth me to take all occasions to vent my Loue; and more nowe then euer, when as you are become not only a branch in the viniard; but euen a cheife piller to the new Syon; vphold, oh vphold, helpe with councell and seasonable advice to reare the walles; it is noe shame for Israelites, to fight with one hand, and buyld with the other; but if I should write a volume to this purpose, it were but water, cast into the sea of your aboundant abilities; I write only to manifest my good will; but not to teach; you haue knowne me, and doe knowe me, a man subiect to infirmities; couer therefore all my disrespects of you with the vaile of your loue; and account of me accordinge to my poore abilities Yours

E.H. A Templo Quinto Junij 1633
1.

W. 2. 166; 4 Collections , VI. 487.

Thomas Gostlin to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Gostlin, Thomas Winthrop, John, Jr.

1633-06-11

To his very lovinge Cosen Mr. John Winthrop Junior this be delivered in new England
Loving Cosen,

My loue to you and to my good Cosen your wife being remembred you shale vnderstand that concerning the men sarvants that you wright to me for to send you which weare 2 Carpenters or one Carpenter and the other a husbandman which yf I could have got yet would not your vncle Downing haue payed for ther passage but for Carpenters I could get none nor husbandmen such as weare fit for you but as for maydes and a girle I 125could haue sent you enoug yf my brother Downing would have payed for ther passage and therefore I have sent you but one because at this time I am shortned for mony and Mr. Peerse would be payed downe and would haue no lesse then fiue pound a passenger besydes 2s 6d for the surgion which I left with your vncle Downinge for him she is one of the goodman Frenches daughters of Assington I haue sent 2 of them one for your father and the other for you your father must take his choyse the eldest must sarve for 3 yeeres and the yongest 4 they stand to your curtesy whither you will finde them or giue them wages I praye let them be delt as well withall as any of the same quallity I praye improue that fiue pound od mony for a stock for your aunt agaynst she come and as for the 3li that you lent my brother Phillip I feare it wilbe lost for she hath so good a consience as to paye none of his debtes but what she is forced too by lawe therfore except you haue witnes and send a letter of aturny and so force her by lawe you shale never haue it so far as I can see I can witnes therfore she tould me that her husband tould her that he had borrowed thre pound of you and therefore yf my witnes will doe any good I shale be redy to testefie the triugth vpon oth and she is able enough to paye it for she is married to one that his lands are worth seuen skore poundes a yeere. also you wright to me, that yf I would send you word when I could come over, that you would giue me the best directiones that you could. yf it shale please god to make waye, I think to come the next yeere, and therfore I praye be as good as your word. I wright to my brother the last time conserning Robt. Crab what his penalty would be yf he should com over I praye inquier and also yf he weare of any good vse theare and send me word. my wife commendes her to you and your wife and all the rest of her Cosnes and freindes our Children lykewise remembers ther loue to you all. and thus desyring the Lord to blesse you with all spirituall and temporall blessinges for your comfortable living heere and your eternall in the lyfe to come vale. Your faythfull Cosen

Tho: Gostlin. Groton this 11 June 1633
1.

W. 4. 72; 5 Collections , I. 200–201.