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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2

John Winthrop, Jr., to Emmanuel Downing1
Winthrop, John, Jr. Downing, Emmanuel

1629-03-09

To the Worshipfull Emanuell Downing.
Martii 9: 1629. de Venetia. Worthy Sir,

May you please to understand that I am now arrived in Venice; the day of our arrivall was the last of Jany. having beene from Constantinople about 6 weekes. I should have wrote to you long since, but coming from a place where the plaugue was very great, we could not be admitted to come into this citty, till we had spent all february as prisoners in their Lazaretto2 (a place a great way distant from the Cytty appointed to such purposes) till it was apparent that we were cleere from all infection: so that not knowing any by whom I might have my letters conveied, I could not write till my comming into the Citty. My charges there were excessive; I find them little lesse since my comming into the Citty, so that I shall have skarce to beare my charges hence, but may have credite heer for more when I want: It may be thought I am a very ill husband, but none can beleeve the charges in these Countries but he that hath experienced them. The exchange also maketh them the deeper, paying neere 6 for 4 and would be more if I should take up any heere. This maketh me desirous to hasten into England; by sea I find no occasion, by land I might have a good oportunity with the Lady Wake,3 which I heare would be very chargeable. I deffer to resolve till I 73 have receyved letters from Legorne which I heare are theare for me, which I gladly expect dayly, hoping to heare from you and my other good freinds of your welfares, which since my departure from England I have had noe notice of. Heare is little newes of Importance, saving of the French King's comming into Italy, which is thought heare cannot but bring forth some notable effect; he hath allready made peace between Mantoa and Savoi,4 and it is thought entendeth to goe against Genoa. Thus with the remembrance of my duty and love to your selfe and my aunt, with my salutations to my cozens and freinds, I commend you to Gods protection and rest Your loving Cosen to command

John Winthrop
1.

Original in the possession of Frederic Winthrop, Esq.; L. and L. , I. 271–272; 5 Collections , VIII. 14–15.

2.

George Sandys, who visited the Levant in 1661, speaks of the lazarettos at Venice and Zante. Purchas his Pilgrimes (ed. of 1905), VIII. 91–92.

3.

Anna, daughter of Edmund Bray of Barrington, wife of Sir Isaac Wake, ambassador to Savoy and Venice. D. N. B.

4.

This was in connection with the War of the Mantuan Succession, fought by France against the two branches of the house of Hapsburg. Cardinal Richelieu and Louis XIII, after the fall of La Rochelle, entered Italy with 35,000 foot and 3,000 horse, in order to support their candidate, Charles de Nevers, for the duchy of Mantua. The treaty between France and Savoy signed at Susa, March 11, 1629, included a settlement of the dispute between Savoy and Mantua. Romolo Quazza, La guerra per la successione di Mantova (Mantua, 1926).

John Winthrop, Jr., to John Freeman1
Winthrop, John, Jr. Freeman, John

1629-03-13

Good Sir,

I am now arrived in Christendome: the ninth of feb: stil: nov: was the day that we came into the Harbour of Malamoco neere Venice, from whence you had heard from me sooner had we not beene deteyned in the Purgatory of the Lazaretto a whole month, (the continuall expectation to be at liberty every day after the first weeke, confidently hoped for, making me defer lettres, knowing no man in Venice by whose meanes I might have them sent on to you,) before I could have liberty to enter the Citty. Mr. Throgmorton2 and the Dutch Gentleman being also partakers in the same penalty. To write you of the particulars of our Voyage, it would be frivolous, remembring nothing that passed worthy your Intelligence, only in generall you shall understand that from the Castles to Zant we were in 5 daies, where we staied about a weeke; there I delivered your letter to Mr. Hobson:3 we found the Hector4 there bound for England, in which Mr. Throgmorton had gone but for feare of long detention etc.

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The second parte of our voiage was very longe and tedious with continuall tempests and foule weather, being a month in the way betwixt Zant and Venice. I have sent your letters for Legorne. I understand since that Mr. Harvy is gone for England. Mr. Hide5 at the receipt of your letters hath kindly offered to furnish me with monies where I shall have occasion, which I thankfully acknowledge as a fruite of your love for which I confesse myself deeply indebted to you, having found such extraordinary kindnesses at your hands whilst I was with you that to proportion my thanks with your deserts would be too difficult for my pen to endeavor, only I pray beleeve that I am ever your true friend to doe you any service which may lye in compasse of my best endeavours.

John Winthrop. March 13, n. s., 1629
1.

Original now lost; L. and L. , I. 273–274; 5 Collections , VIII. 17–18.

2.

See page 80, infra, and Vol. I. 406.

3.

John Hobson, one of “the principle merchants residing at Zant.” Sir Thomas Roe, Negotiations, 825; see Calendar of State Papers, Venetian, for 1626–29.

4.

On May 22, 1628, a letter of marque was issued to Ralph Freeman and others, owners of the Hector of London, 400 tons, William Wilde master. Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, 1628–1629, 119, 144, 306. Her career ended in the summer of 1633, when, with her consort, the William and Ralph, she was attacked in the Archipelago by a fleet of sixty Turkish galleys. The English ships were fired and sunk, but not until they had sunk five Turkish galleys, including the flagship, and slain the commander of the Turks and at least 2,000 of his men. Ibid., 1633–1634, 189–191.

5.

Laurence Hide, an English merchant with a house in Venice and “very well known” there. Calendar of State Papers, Venetian, 1626–1628, 591, 592, 594; 1628–1629, 37, 563.