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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2Note: you've followed an index reference to a note that, due to changes between the print and digital editions, may no longer be on page 223. Please look at all notes at the end of the document or documents on page 223.

John Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1630-03-22

To my verye louinge Sonne mr. John Winthrop at Groton Suffolk dd.
My good sonne,

We are now goeinge to the Shippe, vnder the Comfort of the Lordes gratious protection and good providence. I praye have care so to walke with God in Faithe and sinceritye, as by his blessinge we may meet with ioye. There is newly come into our Companye and sworne an Assistant, one Sir Brian Janson2 of London, a man of good estate, and so affected with our societye, as he hathe given 50 li. to our Common stocke, and 50 li. to the Ioynt Stocke, he desires to be acquainted with you.

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I praye paye Bulbrooke of Wenham suche monye as his provisions cost him about 30: or 40 s. and receive 12 li. of Goodman Ponde for the rest of his sonnes 2: Cows, (I had 10 li. before) and aske him for their passage 10 li. you shall receive 5 li. for Edward Palsforde, which John S. hathe order for. I praye paye mr. Goffe suche monye as you shall receive direction for, from your vnckle Downinge.

We are now come safe (I prayse God) to the Cowes:3 the winde is now verye faire (God be praysed) and we are preparinge to sett sayle, this night. the Lord in mercye sende vs a prosperous voyage. farewell my deare sonne. the Lord blesse you and all my Children and freindes. Commende me to them all as if I named them, for I am in great streightes of leysure so I rest your lovinge father

Jo: Winthrop. March 22. 1629–30.
1.

W. 7 A. 40; Savage (1825), I. 367–368; (1853), I. 441; L. and L. , I. 386–387.

2.

Knighted in Ireland by Falkland, December 14, 1624.

3.

The last meeting in England of the Court of Assistants was held March 23 on the Arbella, when “Mr. John Humfrey (in regard hee was to stay behinde in England) was discharged of his Deputy-shipp, and Mr. Thomas Dudley chosen Deputy in his place.” Records of Massachusetts, I. 70.

Forth Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, Forth Sherman, Ursula Winthrop, John, Jr.

1630-03-26

To my very louing Brother Mr. John Winthrop at Groton dd. these. Suffolk.
most Louing Brother,

Being soe far remote and hauing opportunity of writinge to you I could not omitte the occasion, considering how far I am ingaged to you in all respectes, and therefore ought not to omitte the thankefull acknowledgment of your loue and bounty vpon any occasion whatsoeuer offered. My vncle and aunt Paynter remembers there salutations: they stand much vpon assuringe an estate vpon my Cosen Vrsula before they will haue any further proceedinge in that matter, wherevpon, you know what termes I offered them but because I was you know vnder age therefore they doe require more certayne assurance Tantae molis erat2 — : Wherevpon they did desire me to ride write to my father, and know his minde, which I did, and he tould me, that if they weare soe wary none but you would pleasure me better, and you he said would, by enteringe bond for me that when I doe or shall come to age I shall assure some thinge on her; I would entreat you therefore to thinke vpon it; and if you shall see fitte to engage your selfe for me, I suppose soe much confidence you impose 224vpon my fidelity as you may assure your selfe you shall not any way sustayne any damage or preiudice by or in me:

We are all in health here Praysed be God, hopinge the like of all with you: I shall be glad to here from you and as soone as possible I can expect me with you, in the meane time with my most thankfull loue to you my Cosen Martha and the rest of all our louinge freindes I rest desiringe you to deliuer or cause to be deliuered these letters enclosed: your euer louinge brother to command

Forth Winthrop. From Exeter March 26 1629: or 30:

On the same sheet

Louing Brother excues my neglect of writing to you and impute it not to any want either of loue or affection in me towardes: you but rather to my want of skill and art in writing and partly to my want of conuenant time by reason of my maynifould implymentes being in a strang plase and unsettled thus I remayne your euer louing sister

Vrsula Sherman.
1.

W. Au. 50.

2.

Virgil, Aeneid, I. 33: “Tantae molis erat Romanam condere gentem.”