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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2

John Winthrop, Jr., to John Winthrop1
Winthrop, John, Jr. Winthrop, John

1629-10-05

Sir,

My humble duty remembred, hoping that you are in health, as God be thanked wee are all heere at this present. I thought I should have Come to you to London on Saturday next, but because you wrote at the end of your letter to my mother that I should not need come till tuesday,2 I purpose to stay till then; but we did not well vnderstand whether my brother forth should need come vp with vs to come downe with my aunt Fones, which you may please to Certify my mother of with your next letters. I vnderstand that my brother Henry doth meane to returne from the barbathoes3 with the first occation, and then to goe with his wiffe into new England. If he returne so soone, his Voyage will but gaine him Expenses and bee to noe purpose when he hath done for except hee will continue there, (which I thinke would be the ruine of his soule to live among such company), he must be forced to trust some frend at his returne, which he may doe as well now, and may make his Estate as sure as any other merchantes that are forced to commit all to others trust, besides he may this winter sell his land and make provitions to goe with you in the Spring, or at least to 156send some stocke over, if my sister should not be ready to goe so soone. therefore I pray sir if you see it fitting, Counsell him to stay, or if my Counsell hath prevailed with him, be pleased to approve thereof; so desiring your praiers and blessing I humbly take my leave and rest your obedient sonne

John Winthrop. Groton. Oct: 5: 1629.

I pray remember my duty and love to my vncle and aunts, with my love to my cozens. My sister winthrop and my brothers and sister remember their duty to you.

I suppose if you please he may keepe it private.

1.

W. 1. 60; L. and L. , I. 334–335; 5 Collections , VIII. 22–23.

2.

October 13.

3.

That is, to go and return.

John Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1629-10-09

To his lovinge sonne John Winthrop at Groton Suffolk dd.
Sonne,

I received your lettre and doe heartylye bless the Lorde for the Continuance of your wellfare, beseechinge him to sanctifie you more and more, for his glorye and your owne saluation.

for the businesse you write of concerninge your brother, I have conferred with him, and shalbe as gladd as any, of his staye heere if he can take any good order for his estate there, what he will doe, I knowe not yet, but I thinke he wilbe with you soone. I would gladdly have you heere betymes next weeke, but beinge it wilbe mundaye senight before we shall gett forthe of towne, it wilbe chargeable to keepe all the horses heere so longe: therefore, if you can finde any Companye to come vp with, you may be heere on teusdaye or wensdaye: otherwise you may staye a daye or 2: the longer and let John come with you for I would not have you ride alone. I have sent downe all the late newes from New England. I would have some of you reade it to your mother, and let Forth copye out the observations and all that follows from the ☞: and the lettre in the ende and showe it mr. Mott, and others that intende this voyage. Your vnckle and Auntes are all in healthe and salute you and the rest of ours etc. Comende me to your vncle Gostlin and Aunt and all the rest of our loving freindes that aske of me. so with my loue and blessinge to your self your brothers and sister, salutations to our yonge companye, I ende, and rest, your loving father

Jo: Winthrop. London, Octob: 9. 1629.
1.

W. 7 A. 31; Savage (1825), I. 361; (1853), I. 433–434; L. and L. , I. 335–336.

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