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Margaret Winthrop to John Winthrop1
Winthrop, Margaret Winthrop, John

1628-06-17

To my deare and very loueinge Husband John Winthrope Esquire at mr. Downinge house in fleetstret right ouer agaynst the coundit theese dd London
My beloued and good Husband

I must craue pardon for my not rightinge to you the last weeke Your letter came so late to my hands vpon tuseday that I coulde not right that night, and heareinge of no other mesenger I haue bin constrayned to let it a lone till this weeke, and so have had the more time to consider of it. I doe ioyne with you in beseechinge the lord to direct our wayes and thoughts aright heare in, and that wee may submit vnto his holy will in this and all other thinges to doe that may be for his glory and the comfort of our selues and others. I doe see yours and the rest of my frends great loue and care of me and of all ours in that you are so mindfull of our good which doeth more and more knet my affections to you I pray god I may walke so as I may be worthy of all your loues. for the mater of which you right about of takeinge a house at thiselworth I like well in some respect. in regard of the good Minister and good people and teachinge for our children. but I must aledge one thinge that I feare in your cominge to and fro lest if you should be to ventrus vpon the water if your pasage be by water which I know not it 401may be dangerous for you in the winter time the wether beinge colde and the waters perilous.2 and so I shoulde be in continuall feare of you lest you should take any hurt. I did confir with my mother about it and she thinkes you had better take a house in the city, and so come home to your one table and familye and I am of the same minde but I shall allwayes submit to what you shal thinke fit Vpon the best consideration I can take I haue resolued to stay heare this winter in regard that my littel one is very yonge and the wayes very bad to remoue such things as wee shall stande in nede of and we shal leaue things very vnsetled and to keepe to famylies will be very chargeable to vs. and so I thinke it will be our best corce to remoue in the springe and in the meane time commend it to god. it is all redy reported about the cuntrye that we shal remoue and so it will be the lesse strange to them because thay loke for it all ready and you are to be so much from home. I haue receued your kinde letter by my brother Goslinge for which I hartily thanke you and for my good sermon which you sent with it. you doe dayly manyfeast your loue to me and care for my sperituall good. as well as temperall which is best of all I desire of god I may chuse the better part which cannot be taken from me which will stand me in stead when all other things fayle me. for our condishtion heare wee haue yet mr. leeys helpe in our famylye but he is to remoue very spedily his house beinge all most finished and then we shall want helpe for good exercises the lord in mercy vpholde vs and strenkthen ous by his holy spirit I cannot but with greefe beare yor longe abcence but I hope that this will be the last time wee shall be so longe asunder which doeth sum what stay and comfort me. the lord grant I may finde sweetnesse in Crist Jesus my sperituall Husband who is alwayes with me and neuer fayleth me in time of neede nor will fayle me vnto the end of my life or the life to come my good mother commend hir loue to you all and thankes you for hir toobackco she would pray you to be carefull of your selfe that you take no colde, I desire to haue my loue very kindely remembred to my brother Dounninge and sister my brother Foones and sister and all my Cosins. I prayse god we continue stil in helth our children at home remember thear duty to you. I think very longe to heare of our sonnes at sea I pray god send ous good nuse of them and thus with my best affection remembred to my deare Husband I take my leaue and commit you to God. Your faythfull and obedient wife

Margaret Winthrope Groton, ca. June 17, 1628. 402

I have sent you a payr of shoes, my mother would know if she should send vp a cupple of Geese thay be resenable good ones. I sent the letter to mr. weneiue but he was not at home there came one for mony for Thomas arkesden Granmother and I payed it I haue payed Sug and piyer haksel my brother Foones tenant hath payed iv p. and woulde know who shoulde apoynt him out his Logs to burne this winter and he sayth that you haue a bil of charges that he layed out he woulde pray you to put my brother in minde of it my brother Goslinge will send vp the mony as soune as he doth heare of a safe mesenger.

1.

W. 1. 35; L. and L. , I. 254–256; Twichell, 80–84.

2.

The distance was about nine miles.

John Winthrop, Jr., to John Winthrop1
Winthrop, John, Jr. Winthrop, John

1628-07-14

To the worshipfull John Winthrop Esq. at Groton in Suffolke.
Ligorne,2July 14: 1628. Sir,

— I am forced for the more convenient passage of my letters in a merchants paquet to be more breife then otherwise I should, but I hope hereby they will come to your hands safe and with more speed; which, if they were by them selves, would lye long before they could come to you. You shall hereby understand, that we arrived safely (God be thanked for it) at this port the 7 of this month, being but 20 daies since we left sight of the lands end of England and 26 since our departure out of the Downes.3 We had (I thanke God) both health and faire weather all the way, and are now arrived in a very plesant and temperate Countrie. We spake not with any ships since we lost sight of England save only one English man of Warr upon the coast of Spaine: once we mette 25 saile, but they sprung their 403luffe and would not speake with us. This place affordeth little newes, at this tyme; from Genoa there is newes that there is free trade granted as is at this towne, and from Marseiles that the Duke de Guise is come to sea with 4 gallioones and 12 sailes of gallies, it is supposed to meete with Sir Chillam Digby,4 who hath taken 3 or 4 frenchmen, hath beene at Algiers, and redeemed some 20 or 30 Christian slaves, hath mand his prizes, and is gone againe towards the bottom. The newes of this towne is only of some 200 turkes that the Dukes Gallies have taken and are now heere making ready to set forth againe. Heere is an order from the Duke that no prizes shalbe brought into this port. I find this place very chargeable, and could wish I had brought no English mony with me, for it is foure shillings in the pound losse. Thus with my duty remembred to your selfe, my mother and grandmother, with my love to my brothers and sister, my uncle Gostlin and aunt, and the rest of our freinds, desiring your praiers and blessing, I commend you to Gods protection and rest Your obedient Sonne

John Winthrop.

It wilbe yet a month or 5 weeke before we goe from hence; if you write to me after the receipt hereof I pray let it be to Constantinople and directed to Captaine Maplesden,5 or Mr. John Freeman,6 marchant, or some other way as you thinke it may come safe to my hands as you shall have occasion.

I pray remember my service to uncle Tindall and aunt when you see them, and to Captaine Best.

Indorsed by the father: “This Lettre came to London about the 12 of Aug.”

1.

L. and L. , I. 263–265; 5 Collections , VIII. 9–10. The original is lost.

2.

Leghorn was normally the first port for a ship in the Levant trade. After remaining there twenty days, the Sampson (1625) was to proceed to Zante, with three days’ stay, to Smyrna, with five days, and thence to Constantinople, where thirty days were allowed for discharging and loading freight. Mordecai Epstein, Early History of the Levant Company (London, 1908), 138–139.

3.

On June 9 or 10 the younger Winthrop sailed from the Downs in the London of London, a ship of four hundred tons. The voyage appears to have been a mercantile adventure, perhaps under the Levant Company’s license. A charter had been given to that Company in December, 1605, and ships and freight were subject to regulations framed to maintain a monopoly. Epstein, 135. In an undated note, calendared as of May, 1628, four ships are named as bound for the Straits: the Elizabeth and Margaret, in which Lady Wyche, wife of the British Ambassador at Constantinople, took passage; the London, the Paragon, and the Hector. Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, 1628–1629, 144. Winthrop met the Hector at Zante in January, 1629. L. and L. , I. 274. All four vessels were at Leghorn in August, but thence the Elizabeth and Margaret sailed for Constantinople and the other ships for Zante and Venice. Calendar of State Papers, Venetian, 1628–1629, 181, 229, 346.

4.

Letters of marque had been issued to Sir Keneln Digby in December, 1627, and for a year he remained in the Mediterranean, his most striking deed being the defeat of French and Venetian ships at Scanderoon, in June, 1628. See W. C. Ford, “A Seventeenth Century Letter of Marque,” in M. H. S., Proceedings , LIX. 3–25 (1925).

5.

Edward Maplesden, part owner and master of the London of London. In June, 1630, he was exempted by the Venetian Senate from paying the customary export duty on Zante currants “because of the services rendered by him to the Mart and the public customs by his eight voyages to Cyprus.” Calendar of State Papers, Venetian, 1629–1632, 346.

6.

John Freeman was appointed consul at Smyrna February 22, 1633, on the King’s nomination to the Company. Epstein, op. cit., 94, 96.