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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 1Note: you've followed an index reference to a note that, due to changes between the print and digital editions, may no longer be on page 380. Please look at all notes at the end of the document or documents on page 380.

John Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1628-02-25

To my lovinge sonne John Winthrop at the three fawnes in the olde Baylye, London. DD.
Sonne Jo:

I prayse God we came home well on thursdaye at night and this daye I was at the choyce of our knightes at Ipswich2what our successe was you may knowe by my lettre to either of your vnckles. as like wise for other affaires. I purpose now to sende vp the rest of the writinges, which mr. Featherston3may make vse of, as he shall think fitt: I would be lothe to come vp before the terme except there be necessitye. yet I thincke to be there about a weeke before,4because my horse must be at Houndsloe heathe the 23 of Aprill, and likewise to take order about my removall, which I am now (in a manner) resolued off, if God shall dispose for vs accordingly: for my charge heere grows verye heavye, and I am wearye of these iournies to and fro, so as I will either remoue or putt off my office. I would have you enquire about for a house at tower-hill or some suche open place, or if I cant be provided so neere, I will make tryall of Thistleworthe:5 I would be neere churche and some good schoole. If you can finde how to sende to your brother Hen: let me knowe that I may provide shoes etc: for him, and for other thinges I will leave them to your care. We are all in good healthe (I prayse God) Deane hathe had the smale poxe, but laye not by it, and Samuel was verye sicke, and in great danger, but God hathe deliuered him. your grandmother and mother salute and blesse you: the lorde blesse guide and prosper you in all your wayes, that you may feare him, and cleave to him, and so consecrate your life and youthe to his service, as your life may be of vse for his glorye and the good of others. farewell. your lovinge father

Jo: Winthrop

remember me verye kindly to Capt. Best and his wife, to Capt. downinge and the rest of that familye (when you see them ) Comende me to mr. Featherston and desire him to prepare his assurance by a weeke before 380the terme, if he think good, and if your host shall require it, otherwise at the beginninge of the terme.

looke out amonge the booke sellers in Duck lane, and if you can finde an Englishe bible in 4to for 7: or 8 s. buye it and sende it downe. and remember the stockfishe.

Groton, feb: 25. 1627-28
1.

W. 1. 34; L. and L. , I. 249–250.

2.

Sir William Spring and Sir Nathaniel Barnardiston were chosen. Parliamentary Papers, 1878, LXII, pt. 1, 477.

3.

John Fetherstone was called to the bar of the Inner Temple, November 3, 1622. Calendar of Inner Temple Records, II. 134.

4.

Easter term began seventeen days after Easter Day; thus on April 30 in 1628.

5.

Isleworth, a parish and hundred in co. Middlesex.

Lucy Downing to John Winthrop1
Downing, Lucy Winthrop, John

1628-03

To the Worshipfull her very louinge brother John Winthrop Esq. dlr at Groton Suff.2
London, March, 1627–28. My more then brother

and more louinge to me then I can exspres: and therfore I will rather be silent thoughe much to my shame: then to rip vp so many reall and great fauors: and return nothinge but words: as I have euer done: all thoughe some times I haue wished otherwise: but I knowe it is your sweet disposition euer to conceiue better then the best: my husband is att nellmes:3and I did not conceiue that any thinge in your letter could receiue any preiudice by taryinge till the next weeke: ells I had sent to him: for your present to the master they accepted it very thankfullie and I presume att my husbands goeinge thithire you will hear much more of them: as they did well deserue both of them and vs: but for your requitall: you knowe vs all: but I hope this daye my husband will be att hom to tast of them: and nowe my sweet brother I reioyce in your and our so gratious deliuerances from such perills as wee haue escaped: throughe his loue that hath loued vs: oh that wee had affections enoughe to him againe: and noe doupt but our hapineses should yet be more inlarged: I prays god for it wee hear are all well but my selfe whoe haue bine but indifferent this 8 days: yet I haue walkt abroad euery daye this weeke and doe hope I am the better for it: my cosen downing an that companie desier to be remembred to you. he hath taken could, and is ill, and in phisike. but I hope god will spare his life: an nowe we shall if god will exspect to hear when your intent is for London with your company: wherin I doe vnfainedli dsier the allmightie to direct you: and for your hous it is 381hard to finde one without some inconueniencies: but I shall hardlie haue venterd of as my husband did in respect of the littellnes of it: but being this weeke to cristen msr. motums4 childe for mrs. tindall I conceiued his to be lesse, yet there is a very fine wyfe and braue daughters an many chilldren in it: this in hast desiringe you to remember my duty and loue I am hasted Your louinge sister

L. Downinge

here is no newes but very tart: and hard standinge to knowe the liberties of our persons an goodes yet wee are verie wise an curragious: but wee had hope to haue senne you here ere this I loose wyne still becaus you come not in wagers. if you would translate any plate into other fashons: if it be sent me or if I knew but the wayt of it I could haue newe of any fashion for it: for littell or no profit: by reason our gouldsmith is dead and his plate is to be sould att a very vnder value: yours is much of it vnvsefull and not so creditable as it would be5

1.

W. 4. 1; 5 Collections , I. 4–5.

2.

The address is in the writing of Emmanuel Downing.

3.

A manor and park in Hornchurch, co. Essex, held by Sir Robert Naunton. Morant, Essex, I. 68.

4.

Motham?

5.

Added in the same hand as the address: “Comissioners names John Winthrope Esquire Edmond Brewer Clarke Samuell Plombe gent. Francis Whitmore gent.”