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Forth Winthrop to John Winthrop1

Winthrop, Forth Winthrop, John

1627-05-01

To the right worll. his louinge Father mr. Winthrop these be delievered with speed. London.

Most louinge father.

I receiued your letters by Sir Neuton and doe thanke you for your good counsell and for your kinde token, and delivered your token to my chamberfellow Archisden, whoe with thanks retournes his servis: I had sent to you a fortnight agoe, but that my Tutor beinge at London I hoped he had spoken with you, consearninge our quarttridge. I spoke with him about it, who saieth he sent you a bill of both our expenses, he tould me that we weare behinde with him 3 li. 13 s., and now an other month is come in since, which maketh it vp 4 li. If you will send vs mony for him you may safly deliuer it to Hobson the Cambridge Carrier2 by whome I send vp now markinge the letter for a mony letter:

My tutor remembreth his loue to you whoe said he had thought to haue come to Groton this whitsontide but his inexpected journy to London staid the other: My mother and grandmother are in helth from whome I heard 349latly. Sir Harcoote senior3 (for the iunior is in the contry) thanketh you for your kind remembrance of him, and remembreth his service to you: Thus with my duty remembred to you, and my loue to all my freindes in generall, allwais desiringe your blessinge, and praiers for a blessinge on my studies, I humbly leaue you and your affaieres to the blessinge of the Allmighty, and rest your obedient sonne

Forth Winthrop From Cambridge May 1 1627:

I would entreat you to send me doune some stuffe by the Carrier for a sute for I haue great neede of one:

W. 1. 22; L. and L. , I. 230–231; 5 Collections , VIII. 189–190.

Thomas Hobson, commemorated by Milton in two epitaphs, who let out horses, compelling customers to take the horse which happened to be next the stable-door, or go without. Hence “Hobson’s choice.” N. E. D.

Two sons of Sir Robert Harcourt were at Emmanuel College: Francis, matriculated 1623, and Vere, matriculated 1624. The former became rector of Plumtree, co. Notts, and the latter archdeacon of Nottingham and prebendary of Lincoln, dying in 1683. Venn, A. C. , II. 301.

Deane Tyndal to John Winthrop1

Tyndal, Deane Winthrop, John

1627-05-01

To the worshipfull my very loving brother John winthrop Esq. at mr. Fones his house in the old baylie give these.

Kinde Brother,

the last weeke I was from home, and soe could not answer your louing letter, now I am to lett you know, that my wife2 is not purposde to take anie phisick, and if by illnesse she be compelde to vse som, she will haue the aduice of a phisician neere here, whoe may be present, and see the working of his phisicke, that soe he may the better temper it, for her bodie. My coming to London being vncertayne, and my Cosin Gibson being exceding desierous of mony, I haue sent you my Aunts will, and a letter of Attorny with a blanke in it for his name, that shall put it of, for vs. My wife remembers her harty loue to you, and soe doeth he that wisheth you much happinesse, and now leaus you to the protection of the almightie, and rests Your assured louing brother

Deane Tyndale From Maplested this first of May 1627 1.

W. 1. 21.

Amy (Weston) Tyndal. Muskett, 153.

Forth Winthrop to John Winthrop1

Winthrop, Forth Winthrop, John

1627

Most lovinge father

hauinge sich an occasion as the cominge doune of Tho: Archisdem my Chamber fellow and Sir Caly I thought good though 350in some hast to wright to you by reson of the sooddane iourny of these 2: I hope you are all in health as I am here (blessed be god allmighty) whome I humbly beecech to assist me most graciously by his holy sperrit, to run the waies of godlynesse and to shun the venomus and contagious vices of these outragious times, wherein I once was intangled, but hope by the good sperrit of god to fly them more and more, although by my selfe I am vtterly vnable, yet I will not ceasse to put vp my humble petitions and praiers to him that is the Keeper of Israell, and doe likewise desire your praiers for the same: My Tutor sent doune a letter to you a while scins by one Devurux2 whoe receiued it of Tho: Arkisden I not knowinge of it, now scinse this Devurux sent a note to Tho: Archisden that he had forgot the letter, and his oune letter, for belike he sent one to you: I would desire you to send word whether you haue receiued them or noe: for that Deuurux as I heare say doeth vse to take in hand the cariage of letters and opens them and not delivereth them: I suppose you haue heard of the news of our Colledge businesse about the alteringe of a statute of the library3 also that the Duke is about to make for the Vniversity,4 if not, these 2 Sir Caly and Tho: Ark: can certyfy you of them:

Thus with my humble duty remembred to yourselfe and my mother, and loue to the rest of my frends, allwaies desireing your praiers and blessinge in hast I rest: your dutifull and obedient sonne

F: Winthrop.

I would desire you to send me the shoes for which I wrote to you: I haue need of some clothes, for these are worne out: wherefore I would entreat you somtime when you shall see fit to send me vp some stuffe for to make me clothes, or other wise as you shall see most convenient:

W. 1. 22; L. and L. , I. 231–232; 5 Collections , VIII. 190–191.

Peter and Robert Devereux, brothers, of Rattlesden in Suffolk, were students in the University at this time. Venn, A. C. , II. 38; cf. 3 Collections , X. 148.

This was the suspension of the statute of 1587 De mora sociorum, “which enacted that a Fellow should vacate his Fellowship when of the standing of D.D. (ten years from M.A.), or, if he actually took that degree, at the end of a year after doing so.” E. S. Shuckburgh, Emmanuel College (London, 1904), 24, 58–65.

Chancellor of the University from 1626 to his death in 1628. Of his chancellorship Thomas Fuller says only, “This Duke gave the Beadles their old silver Staves, and bestowed better and bigger on the University, with the Kings, and his own Arms insculped thereon.” The History of the University of Cambridge (London, 1655), 164.