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Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 1

John Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, John Winthrop, John, Jr.

1623-03-25

To my beloved sonne John Winthrop at Trin: Colledge in Dublin, dd Irelande received Aprill: 26
My deare sonne,

I received your letters with the bill of charges inclosed etc: I blesse God for the continuance of your healthe, but especially for. the good seed of his true feare which, I trust, is planted and growes dayly in you; I perceiue you lose not your tyme, nor neglect your studye, which as it wilbe aboundantly fruitfull to my comfort, so muche more to your owne future and eternal happinesse, and especially to the glorye of him who hathe created you to this purpose. I praye continually that God will please to stablishe your heart and bless these good beginninges. For the moneye which you have spent I will paye it, and what els your vncle shall appointe me, so soone as I receive my rentes, and for your expences, seeing, I perceive, you are considerate of my estate, I will have as great regard of yours, and so longe as your minde is limited to a sober course, I will not limit your allowance, lesse then to the vttermost of myne owne estate, so as if 20 li. be to little (as I alwayes accounted it) you shall have 30 li., and when that shall not suffice, you shall have more, onely holde a sober and frugall course (yet without basenesse) and I will shorten my selfe to en­279large you. for your apparell, desire your vncle to furnishe you for this present, and if I can finde out a means to sende you things against winter at a more easye rate, I will provide for you, as I would haue doone before this, but that I thought (the charges of sending and hazard considered) you were as good provide them there. your mother is lately delivered of another sonne (his name is Deane),2 and is reasonable well (I prayse God) with your grandmother brothers and sister, vncle and aunt Gostlin etc, but your grandfather is very weake and (we feare) in his last sicknesse. they all salute you and reioyce in your welfare. goodman hawes was heere and salutes you allso: remember my love to your Tutor etc. The Lord blesse you allways. Amen. Your loving father,

J. Winthrop

I wrote to you lately and to your vncle and aunt and since I wrote another letter to your aunte.

March 25. 1623.
1.

W. 7A. 9; Savage (1825), I. 339–340; (1853), I. 407–408; L. and L. , I. 176–177.

2.

Sixth son, born March 16, 1622–23, died March 16, 1703–04.

Forth Winthrop to John Winthrop, Jr.1
Winthrop, Forth Winthrop, John, Jr.

1623-04-17

To his most louinge Brother Mr. John Winthroppe at Trinitie Coll: nere Dublin give thes Ireland
Most louinge Brother

I receiued youer letters the 16 of Aprill wherby I perceiued your great loue and respect towards me which alwaise hath binne: I thank you for your good admonitions which you in your letters sent mee for to alwaise goe on as I haue begunne knowinge that althou the waie to lerninge seeme verry hard and dificult yet the frute and end is sweet and pleasant. I hope althou the distans of place hath set vs one from another yet nether sea nor land nor any thinge else can part our affections one from the other: I had an intention to haue written to you by one of Bury that went ouer but he went ouer so speedilie as I cold nott haue time to wright: but hauing so fitt an opportunitie I will wright. I wold I cold find matter wherin I might expresse my mind to you: for sich are our sinnes to god as they dailie cry for vengans vppon vs and so littell loue or charitie one to another in thes daies as it is gods mercy that we are nott consumed: but to retturne to the purpose: you wrote to me to send you word of what forme I am of and how I like: I am of Tho: 280Chalmans: for when as I came first Mr. Ward did putt mee to my choise whether I wold be of Jermin Wrights or the other now Jermins classe was so forward in Greke grammer as I cold verry hardly haue ouertaken them so I wold be of the louer forme: we came vp into the hie ende last christide: As for my likinge of itt who cold mislike of sich a place hauinge sich kind vsage att schole: and I giue most hartie thanks to Almightie God for that he hath disposed it so for my good and benefight: As for our Borders Tho: Wright and his Brother are gone to Cambridge: thaie went a fort­night before Ester; none else but Abraham Caly of whom before I wrote to you: All our Frends are in good helth onely our grandmother is nott very well: Our grandfather is departed out of this miserable life to a perpetual rest: When as I came last from my master Mr. Dikenson he was in good helth and sent commendations to you. So did Mr. Ward: Mr. Dikenson is married last Ester: his wife is bigge with child reddy to be delivered if nott she bee already: William Harbone is gone to Cambridge: he went that daie that Thomas wright went: William Hall went to Cam: 2 monthes before; and Edmund Maier went to bee admitted then toe but he cold nott William Smith went to Cambridge this Easter: the 2 classe as I suppose shall be turned to the hy one: Charles Neuton is gone to Cambridge verry latly but of what college he is I cannot learne: Henery Bridon sendeth salutations to you:

I am in good health I praise god for it So are all our frends so far as I can learne our new Brother Deane is well praised be god for itt:

Thus hauinge nott more time I committ you to the almightie Jehoua:

Your louing brother Forth Winthroppe Groton: Aprill 17 1623

as for the printed booke of quarters which you wroght word of I cannott redilie find it nor how surely send it. but my father will find it and send it to you by my Vncle Gostling who will come shortly:

Remember me to my vncle and ante Downinge and to Richard:

1.

W. 1. 7; L. and L. , I. 188–190; 5 Collections , VIII. 186–188.