Papers of John Adams, volume 19

To John Adams from John Lillie Jr., 7 December 1787 Lillie, John Jr. Adams, John
From John Lillie Jr.
Boston 7th December 1787. May it please your Excellency.

Nothing but the importance of the following subject which immediately concerns myself could have induced me to beg your attention upon it, by being persuaded your time was gennerally employed in National affairs,— But as the result of this business is very interesting to me, I have taken the liberty to write & request your assistance & advice, and that you would have the goodness (if not too much trouble) to see His Excellency Governer Elliot on the occasion.— The circumstances are as follows.

There is an Estate in St John Newfoundland known by the name of Lillie’s Plantation, which has been the property of My Ancestors for more than a Century past, & handed down from generation to generation,— This property legally decended to my Father Mr John Lillie who died about twenty two Years ago,— My Mother Mrs Abigail Lillie, as I was then a Child, thought best to lease it out for the term of twenty one Year’s, which lease expired the 29th of October last.— I should have gone down & taken possession of the Estate as 230 soon as I was of age, had it not been upon lease, which would have been to no effect, for that reason I omitted it till the expiration of the lease.— Under those circumstances my being the only Son & Heir, & indeed the only Male of the family living, I thought best to write His Excellency Governor Eliot on the subject about two Month’s before the expiration of the lease, in which I stated to him my claim, and informed him I had every Paper necessary to prove it lodged in my Agent’s hands in St Johns, and that I fully intended to be there early in the Spring, to settle upon, sell or lease the same, as no business could be done there in the Winter Season,— Also that the Person to whom it was leased had refused to pay the Agent for the Rent justly due for the last three Years,— I also observed to him as the helm of Government rested in his hands I did not doubt he would have the premises delivered up to the Agent at the expiration of the lease, and begged him to insist on the Person to whom it was leased to pay the balance due for the rent previous to his departure for Europe, that everything might be amicably & honorably settled previous thereto.

Notwithstanding those representations I am sorry to say, that contrary to my opinion & that of every person in this Country who have been made acquainted with the circumstances, His Excellency was pleased one Month before the expiration of the lease, to issue Warrants for the purpose of levelling to the ground three Dwelling House’s &c and given to Persons, Fish Rooms & lots of Land (belonging to me) who had not the least claim thereto; which land Plantation was surveyed & placed on Record at St Johns by order of the late Predesessor of His Excellency Governor Elliot.

This from all the information I can collect has been done in consequence of my being a Member of the late American Army; which does not in the least correspond with my ideas of the sense of the Definitive Treaty of Peace.— Or if I was considered an Alien, I think His Excellency has been rather too precipitate in his determinations, by ordering my property destroyed & Lands given away without the privilege of a hearing or even that of my Agent who is upon the spot.

Your Excellency may easily conceive what trouble and difficulty may arise between the two Nations, if property is so taken & destroyed,— As you are sensible there are many Estates in this Town belonging to British Subjects now residing in England under similar circumstances, and which may with the same propriety meet with an equal fate,— Although humanity would recoil at a retaliation so cruel & unjust.

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I must therefore submit the above facts to your consideration, & hope you may not find it too inconvenient to speak to His Excellency Governor Elliot on the subject.1

I have the honor to be with great esteem & respect, Your Excellency’s most obdt / servt.

John Lillie.

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “His Excelly John Adams Esqr.”; endorsed by AA: “Mr Lillee / Letter.”

1.

Former artillery captain John Lillie Jr. of Boston (1755–1801), who served in the Revolutionary War, had previously written to Newfoundland governor John Elliot, who sent Lillie’s petition to the Privy Council. It ruled that only British subjects could possess fishing grounds in Newfoundland, awarding the contested land to past tenant John Saul and permitting the buildings’ destruction. There is no evidence that JA replied to Lillie. On 4 Feb. 1801, however, JA nominated him for a commission in the army, which the Senate confirmed on 16 Feb. (Heitman, Register Continental Army ; Edward Lillie Pierce, Major John Lillie, 1755–1801: The Lillie Family of Boston, 1663–1896, rev. edn., Cambridge, 1896, p. 7, 29, 31, 51–57; U.S. Senate, Exec. Jour. , 6th Cong., 2d sess., p. 378, 380).

From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 10 December 1787 Adams, John Jefferson, Thomas
To Thomas Jefferson
Dear sir Grosvenor Square Decr 10. 1787

I last night received, the Ratification of my last Loan1 and the inclosed Resolution of Congress of 18 July last, for the Redemption of Prisoners at Algiers.— It is probable you have received it before, but as it is, in your Department to execute it, and possible that you may, not have received it, I thought it Safest to transmit it to you, as I have now the honour to do, here inclosed.2 Mr Vanberckel, Son of the Minister, is arrived at Falmouth, by the Packet, but not yet in London. By him, I expect my Dismission.3 The American Newspapers, already arrived both from New York and Boston, announce it to have passed in Congress, the 5. of October. and now as We Say at Sea, huzza for the new World and farewell to the Old One.

All Europe resounds with Projects for reviving, States and Assemblies, I think: and France is taking the lead.— How Such assemblies will mix, with Simple Monarchies, is the question. The Fermentation must terminate in Improvements of various Kinds. Superstition, Bigotry, Ignorance, Imposture, Tyranny and Misery must be lessened Somewhat.— But I fancy it will be found Somewhat difficult, to conduct and regulate these debates. Ex quovis ligno non fit Mercurius.—4 The World will be entertained with noble sentiments and enchanting Eloquence. but will not essential Ideas be sometimes forgotten, in the anxious study of brilliant Phrases? Will the Duke of orleans make a Sterling Patriot and a determined son of Liberty? Will he 232 rank with Posterity among the Brutus’s and Catos?— Corrections and Reformations and Improvements are much wanted in all the Institutions of Europe Ecclesiastical and civil: but how or when they will be made is not easy to guess.— It would be folly I think to do no more than try over again Experiments, that have been already a million times tryed. attempts to reconcile Contradictions will not succeed. and to think of Reinstituting Republicks, as absurdly constituted as were the most which the World has seen, would be to revive Confusion and Carnage, which must again End in despotism.— I shall soon be out of the Noise of all these Speculations in Europe leaving behind me however the most fervent good Wishes for the Safety and Prosperity of all who have the Cause of Humanity Equity; Equality and Liberty at heart. With the tenderest / Affection of Friendship, I am and ever shall be / my dear sir yours

John Adams

RC and enclosures (DLC:Jefferson Papers); internal address: “His Excellency Mr Jefferson.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 112.

1.

Of [11 Oct.], above.

2.

JA enclosed copies of Congress’ 18 July resolution authorizing Jefferson to redeem the Algerian captives, and that of 12 Oct. regarding the balance of funds allotted to do so ( JCC , 32:364–365; 33:664).

3.

JA received his recall on 14 Dec. (to John Jay, 16 Dec., below).

4.

The god Mercury is not to be fashioned from just any piece of wood.