Papers of John Adams, volume 19

From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 10 November 1787 Adams, John Jefferson, Thomas
To Thomas Jefferson
My dear sir London. Nov. 10. 1787

Mr Boylston is going to Paris, with a Cargo of Sperma Cæti oil, and will be obliged to you for any Assistance or Advice you can give him.

I forwarded a few days ago, from Mr Gerry, a Copy as I suppose of the Result of Convention.—1 It Seems to be admirably calculated to preserve the Union, to increase Affection, and to bring Us all to the Same Mode of thinking. They have adopted the Idea of the Congress at Albany in 1754 of a President to nominate officers and a Council to Consent: but thank heaven they have adopted a third Branch, which that Congress did not.2 I think that Senates and Assemblies should have nothing to do with executive Power. But still I hope the Constitution will be adopted, and Amendments be made at a more convenient opportunity.

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What think you of a Declaration of Rights? should not Such a Thing have preceeded the Model?

People here are solacing themselves in the Prospect of the Continuance of Peace: and the tryumphant Party in Holland carry a high hand.— I Suspect that both are rather too Sanguine.— They have very insufficient Grounds for so much Exultation. My worthy Old Friends the Patriots in Holland are extreamly to be pittied: and so are their deluded Persecutors. That Country I fear is to be ruined, past all Remedy. I wish that all the good Men had Sense and Spirit enough to go to America.— With the usual / sentiments yours

John Adams.

RC (DLC:Jefferson Papers); internal address: “Mr Jefferson”; endorsed: “Adams John.”

1.

Elbridge Gerry enclosed a copy of the proposed U.S. Constitution with his letter of 20 Sept. to JA, above. In a 13 Nov. letter to WSS, Jefferson wrote that he did not know if he should thank WSS or JA for sending him the copy, adding, “There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate” (Jefferson, Papers , 12:356).

2.

JA referred to the 1754 Albany Plan of Union, adopted by delegates in a failed effort to centralize colonial government, thereby consolidating British authority and countering French expansion in North America (Franklin, Papers , 5:374–392).

To John Adams from Thomas Jefferson, 13 November 1787 Jefferson, Thomas Adams, John
From Thomas Jefferson
Dear Sir Paris Nov. 13. 1787. 1

This will be delivered you by young mr̃ Rutledge. your knowledge of his father will introduce him to your notice. he merits it moreover on his own account.2

I am now to acknolege your favors of Oct. 8. & 26.3 that of August 25. was duly received, nor can I recollect by what accident I was prevented from acknoleging it in mine of Sep. 28. it has been the source of my subsistance hitherto, & must continue to be so till I receive letters on the affairs of money from America. Van Staphorsts & Willinks have answered my draughts.— your books for M. de la Fayette are received here.4 I will notify it to him, who is at present with his provincial assembly in Auvergne.

Little is said lately of the progress of the negociations between the courts of Petersburg, Vienna, & Versailles.5 the distance of the former & the cautious, unassuming character of it’s minister6 here is one cause of delays: a greater one is the greediness & instable character of the emperor. nor do I think that the Principal here will be easily induced to lend himself to any connection which shall threaten a war within a considerable number of years. his own reign 214 will be that of peace only, in all probability; and were any accident to tumble him down, this country would immediately gird on it’s sword & buckler, & trust to occurrences for supplies of money. the wound their honour has sustained festers in their hearts, and it may be said with truth that the Archbishop & a few priests, determined to support his measures because proud to see their order come again into power, are the only advocates for the line of conduct which has been pursued. it is said & believed thro’ Paris literally that the Count de Monmorin “pleuroit comme un enfant”7 when obliged to sign the counter declaration. considering the phrase as figurative, I believe it expresses the distress of his heart. indeed he has made no secret of his individual opinion. in the mean time the Principal goes on with a firm & patriotic spirit, in reforming the cruel abuses of the government and preparing a new constitution which will give to this people as much liberty as they are capable of managing. this I think will be the glory of his administration, because, tho’ a good theorist in finance, he is thought to execute badly. they are about to open a loan of 100. millions to supply present wants, and it is said the preface of the Arret will contain a promise of the Convocation of the States general during the ensuing year. 12. or 15. provincial assemblies are already in action, & are going on well: and I think that tho’ the nation suffers in reputation, it will gain infinitely in happiness under the present administration. I inclose to mr̃ Jay a pamphlet which I will beg of you to forward. I leave it open for your perusal. when you shall have read it, be so good as to stick a wafer in it. it is not yet published, nor will be for some days. this copy has been ceded to me as a favor.

How do you like our new constitution? I confess there are things in it which stagger all my dispositions to subscribe to what such an assembly has proposed. the house of federal representatives will not be adequate to the management of affairs either foreign or federal. their President seems a bad edition of a Polish king. he may be reelected from 4. years to 4. years for life. reason & experience prove to us that a chief magistrate, so continuable, is an officer for life. when one or two generations shall have proved that this is an office for life, it becomes on every succession worthy of intrigue, of bribery, of force, & even of foreign interference. it will be of great consequence to France & England to have America governed by a Galloman or Angloman. once in office, & possessing the military force of the union, without either the aid or check of a council, he would not be easily dethroned, even if the people could be induced to 215 withdraw their votes from him. I wish that at the end of the 4. years they had made him for ever ineligible a second time. indeed I think all the good of this new constitution might have been couched in three or four new articles to be added to the good, old, & venerable fabrick, which should have been preserved even as a religious relique.—

present me & my daughters affectionately to mr̃s Adams. the younger one continues to speak of her warmly. accept yourself assurances of the sincere esteem & respect with which I have the honour to be, Dear Sir, your friend & servant

Th: Jefferson

P.S. I am in negociation with de la Blancherie. you shall hear from me when arranged.

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “H.E. mr̃ Adams.”; endorsed: “Mr Jefferson / Nov. 13. 1787”; notation by CFA: “published in his Writings / vol 2d. p 267,” that is, Jefferson, Correspondence, ed. Randolph, 2:265–267.

1.

Jefferson also wrote to WSS on the same day, acknowledging his letters of 4, 8, and 26 October. Expressing his concern about the lack of presidential term limits in the U.S. Constitution, Jefferson wrote, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure” (Jefferson, Papers , 12:355–356).

2.

John Rutledge Jr. (1766–1819) was the son of John (1739–1800), a former congressional delegate from and governor of South Carolina. The younger Rutledge remained in Europe on a grand tour until May 1790, when he returned to Charleston, S.C., to practice law ( Biog. Dir. Cong. ; Jefferson, Papers , 12:461, 16:428).

3.

An inadvertence. Jefferson referred to JA’s letters of 9 and 28 Oct. 1787, both above.

4.

JA sent copies of his Defence of the Const. for the Marquis de Lafayette with his letter of 28 Oct. to Jefferson, above.

5.

Jefferson referred to the possible alliance of Austria, Russia, and France in opposition to Britain and Prussia, which ultimately was not negotiated (Black, British Foreign Policy , p. 153, 329).

6.

Ivan Matveevich Simolin had served as the Russian minister plenipotentiary to France since Feb. 1785 ( Repertorium , 3:354).

7.

Wept like a child.