Papers of John Adams, volume 19

To John Adams from Thomas Jefferson, 23 July 1787 Jefferson, Thomas Adams, John
From Thomas Jefferson
Dear Sir Paris July 23. 1787.

Frouillé, the bookseller here who is engaged in having your book translated and printed, understanding that you were about 121 publishing a sequel to it, has engaged me to be the channel of his prayers to you to favor his operation by transmitting hither the sheets of the sequel as they shall be printed; & he will have them translated by the same hand, which is a good one.1

It is necessary for me to explain the passage in mr̃ Barclay’s letter of July 13th. of which he writes me he had sent you a duplicate, wherein he mentions that I had given him a full dispensation from waiting on you in London.2 mr̃ Barclay was arrested in Bourdeaux for debt & put into prison. the parliament released him after five days on the footing of his being Consul & minister from the U.S. to Marocco. his adversaries applied here to deprive him of his privilege. I spoke on the subject to the minister. he told me that the character of Consul was no protection at all from private arrest, but that he would try to avail him of the other character. I found however that the event might be doubtful, and stated the whole in a letter to mr̃ Barclay, observing at the same time that I knew of nothing which rendered it necessary for him to come to Paris before his departure for America. he determined therefore to go to America immediately which indeed was his wisest course, as he would have been harrassed immediately by his creditors.—3 our funds here have been out some time and mr̃ Grand is at the length of his tether in advancing for us. he has refused very small demands for current occasions, and I am not clear he will not refuse my usual one for salary. he has not told me so, but I am a little diffident of it. I shall know in a few days. whether he does or not, I cannot approve of his protesting small & current occasions calls. having had nothing to do with any other banker, I cannot say what their practice is: but I suppose it their practice to advance for their customers, when their funds happen to be out, in proportion to the sums which they pass thro’ their hands. mr̃ Grand is a very sure banker, but a very timid one, & I fear he thinks it possible that he may lose his advances for the United states. should he reject my draught, would there be any prospect of it’s being answered in Holland, merely for my own & mr̃ Short’s salaries, say 4500 livres a month?— you will have heard that the emperor has put troops into march on account of the disturbances in Brabant. the situation of affairs in Holland you know better than I do. how will they end?— I have the honour to be with sentiments of the most perfect esteem & respect Dear Sir / your most obedient / & most humble servt.

Th: Jefferson
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RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “H.E. Mr. Adams”; endorsed: “Mr Jefferson July 23. / ansd Aug. 25. 1787.”; notation by CFA: “not published.” CFA presumably meant that the letter was not published in Jefferson, Correspondence, ed. Randolph.

1.

For the French edition proposed by Jefferson to Jacques François Froullé, see vol. 18:550.

2.

Thomas Barclay to the commissioners, 13 July, above.

3.

For Barclay’s arrest in Bordeaux and subsequent release, see his 3 April letter, and note 2, as well as WSS’s 19 May letter, both above.

To John Adams from Christopher Gadsden, 24 July 1787 Gadsden, Christopher Adams, John
From Christopher Gadsden
Charleston so. Carolina 24th July 1787 My Worthy Friend

I am much obliged to You for your kind Remembrance of me, & the very Acceptable present You sent me, by Mr Gibbes, Your Defence of our Constitutions, wch. I read with the greatest Attention & as much pleasure, & am glad to hear by a Friend of mine at the Convention that ’tis much read there, he sent me a Copy printed at Philada. but Yours came to hand a few Days before.1 In another State I hope we shall be happy under a simple Governmt. directed by infinite Wisdom & Goodness, but in the present, while Strugling with such various & contradictory passions, Nothing less than the most artful playing them one against another, Wholesale & Retail, (if I may use the Expression) can insure us any tollerable lasting peace & Security, either publicly or privately, “All nature’s Difference keeps all Nature’s peace”2 according to your Well-chosen Motto, is as true a proposition as any in Euclid— I must own I was once fond of a Simple Constitution of Governmt. as much so perhaps as Mr. Turgot, but have been some Time convinced, however pleasing & entertaining it appear’d in Idea, that it was there only, & cou’d not, as Mankind are, be Reduced to practice, The three distinct checks You mention in Legislature, seem to be indespensably necessary with one Executive, I think We are so far happy in having all these at certain periods elegible by the people, but annual Elections are rather too frequent in my Opinion— Some of our Governor’s have not a Negative, this State’s particularly, which I am sorry for, tho’ at the early Time of framing our Constitution or rather extraordinary Governmental Law, Inter-Arma, I confess I was then against it, but shou’d there be a Convention to revise it, or rather make a real Constitution, I wish our Governrs may be allowd a Negative— Unhappily, rather from Inattention & Inexperience than Design, Our Assemblies at Times have interfer’d too much in the judicial 123 Department, Whereas the three, the Deliberative, Judicial & Executive, ought to be altogether separate, the permitting our Judges to set in the Assembly, is I think very improper & has a natural Tendency to introduce a Confusion of Departments—

This my Dear Sir I hope will be deliver’d You by the Son of a late Worthy Friend Mr. John Edwards, who was prisoner with me at Augustine, a Gentleman who by his Industry, had with great Reputation, acquired a very handsome provision for a large Family, but by lending great part of it to the public, & other common Accidents of the late Times, his Fortune at his Death was much Reduced, My Youngest Son Married one of his Daughters, Sister to this Young Gentleman, Any Countenance You may shew him I shall be obliged to You for. I believe You’ll find him a very modest well inclin’d Youth.3

With Regard to myself, having been as active as most Men in America for near thirty Years, I have now taken a passive Turn, & indeed it is high Time, as I am pretty well advanced in Life, I am entirely the private Gentleman, endeavouring to Repair, the amazing damages done me during the late Struggle, No Man in this State having suffer’d more in proportion to his Fortune— However I rejoice that Heaven has bless’d us with Success, & only wish our American Friends may make a proper Use of it—

I am Dr. Sir / With Sincere Esteem / Yr. most obedt. hble servt.

Christ Gadsden

RC (Adams Papers); endorsed: “Mr C. Gadsden / 24. July. 1787.”

1.

Christopher Gadsden (1723–1805), of Charleston, S.C., represented South Carolina in the Continental Congress and served with JA on several committees. JA remembered him as a key southern delegate who was “always on my Side” (vol. 3:8, 136, 142, 147; JA, D&A , 3:330; Biog. Dir. Cong. ).

2.

For the title page of the first volume of the Defence of the Const. , JA selected this epigram from Alexander Pope’s Essay on Man, Epistle IV, line 56.

3.

Catherine Edwards married Philip Gadsden on 19 Nov 1783 in Charleston. Her father, John (d. 1781), had been banished and imprisoned by the British with Christopher Gadsden in St. Augustine, Fla., after the British seized Charleston in 1780 (Mary Pringle Fenhagen, “John Edwards and Some of His Descendants,” SCHGM , 55:17, 18, 21, 26).