Papers of John Adams, volume 18

From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 20 December 1785 Adams, John Jefferson, Thomas
To Thomas Jefferson
Dear Sir Grosvenor Square Decr 20. 1785

Mr Barretts Arrival at Paris, is a lucky Event, and his appointment by the Merchants in Boston a judicious Step; but I am not So clear in the Choice he makes of L’Orient to reside in.— Paris, or even Havre, Seems to me a better Situation. Paris in preference to all others.— If Boylstone would Act in concert with him, his Capital, would be equal to every Thing which relates to the Business: But he is a Singular Character irritable, fiery, avaricious, parcimonious, to a degree, that made me always doubtfull whether, he would Succeed: besides his Age and Ignorance of the Language. it is to be regretted that his Cargo cannot be put into the Hands of Sangrain because it is a great Object, to bring that Gentleman into an Acquaintance with the Qualities of the white Sperma Cæti Oil, and into a Course of Experiments of its Use. The first Point to be gained, is to Shew, that this Oil, considering all its Properties, may be used in the Reverberes cheaper, than the Olive Oil, Neatsfoot Oil, or Linseed Oil, or whatever other Substance goes to the Composition of that with which they now enlighten their Cities. We must engage Œconomy, as an Advocate in our Cause, or we shall finally loose it.— The Marquis tells me, the Duty is reduced to 7.Liv. 10.s the Barrique of 520 52 Weight— you state it at 11₶: 10s.— I should be glad to be exact in this Information, and to know which is right.1 But, 11₶: 10s the Barrique, even as you State it, is so much less than 18.£ 3.s sterling the Ton, the Allien Duty paid here that one would think it must turn all the Trade to France as I hope it will, and as it certainly will if the French Government encourage the Attempt.— if an American Merchant can fix himself at Paris and remain a Man of Business, and not become infected with a Rage for Amusements, he might by corresponding with all the great Cities of the Kingdom soon do a great deal, towards introducing an extensive Trade between the United States and the French.

I am extreamly Sorry for the Accident, which has retarded Mr Barclay, but I think with you that We must submit to it, for a reasonable Time.—2 But I hope Mr Barclay will not Suffer himself to be delayed one moment unnecessarily.— if any Pretences or Excuses for postponing are contrived, I hope he will break away from them all.—it is a horrid Thing, that Business so essential should have been neglected so long.—

The Chevr. De Pinto is Sick, which will unluckily retard our Affair with him. But I will quicken it as Soon and as much as I can.3

With great Esteem I am, dear Sir your / most obedient Servant

John Adams.

RC (DLC:Jefferson Papers); internal address: “His Exy. Mr Jefferson.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 112.

1.

For Jefferson’s answer to JA’s question, see his 27 Dec. letter, below.

2.

In his 11 Dec. letter, Jefferson explained that Thomas Barclay’s delayed departure for Morocco was owing to “the immense amount of Beaumarchais’ accounts” that Congress had directed Barclay to settle prior to any payment being made (Jefferson, Papers , 9:91).

3.

That is, the negotiation of a Portuguese-American commercial treaty.

To John Adams from Benjamin Goodhue, 20 December 1785 Goodhue, Benjamin Adams, John
From Benjamin Goodhue
Sir Salem Decr. 20th, 1785

Having an acquaintance with your good brother Mr. Cranch, from being a fellow member of the same Legislative body; at his request and from the Assurance which he has given me, that a letter from one of whom you have no Kind of Knowledge, where the views of the Writer are painted to the general good, would meet a Kind reception; I have taken this liberty of sending you inclosed the present state of our Cod & Mackerel fisheries in this Commonwealth, and hope the communication will be agreable—1 the statement is made 53 from the best information I could collect, and I dare say is not far from the truth— What proportion the quantity of fish caught this year, bears to what was taken before the War, I cannot determine; but only inform you the common opinion is that there is better then half, and there is no room to doubt, that in three or four years, We shall equal, if not exceed in this business what we ever have been before— I take notice in one of your letters to your Brother you wish to be informed of the state of the English & French fisheries &c— I have not been able to ascertain their situation any further then this, that the Cod fishery at Nova Scotia is so inconsiderable as not to deserve notice, and I am sure if we conduct with the least prudence it never can be, because from the sterility of their soil they must be for ever beholden to us for many of their supplies; and their almost eternal fogs, will ever prevent their fish from being cured in such a manner as will put it in competition with ours— their fisheries at Newfound Land doubtless are great; with what advantages they carry it on, I do not precisely Know, but am pretty confident they could not with any profit, if they were excluded from supplying themselves from the United States— the French have a considerable number of Vessels, perhaps two or three hundred, but from the size of their Vessels which are too large, and the natural indolence of men on hire, togather with their unacquaintedness with the bussiness, I believe they make no great hand of it, they ship chief of their fish to France, and altho, they have put a duty of half a Dollar per Quintal on our fish carried to their West India Islands, and placed the same duty as a bounty on the fish cured at Miquelon, only two small cargoes of their fish have for the Year past been exported to their Islands— on the whole I think it abundantly apparent, that we have greater advantages for carrying on the Cod fishery, then the Inhabitants of any other Country, and it gives me much satisfaction, that there appears a disposition with us to improve it— The Whale fishery you are sensible is in a very languid condition, and for ought I see must continue so, unless Britain should unexpectedly relax from her present measures, or untill what I most hope, We may be able to find a sale for the Oyl in some other markets— The General Court, after much labour from the few Commercial characters in that Body, did the last session grant a bounty on Oyl, (a copy of which I inclose),—2 it was design’d as a temporary relief, to prevent those employ’d in the Whale fishery from immediately quiting the Country (which very few have already done) and to see what events might turn up to occasion its revival— Britain & France with whom 54 we should from our reciprocal wants, be most naturaly connected in commerce, have thrown such embarrassments in the way of our carrying bussiness, that it is at present very discouraging to those who have provided themselves with Vessels for the purpose. the number of which is as great as before the war, and might with ease be increased to any number required— I have ever consider’d this togather with the fisheries as particularly congenial to this Government, and to be the only thing which can give importance to the Massachusetts, when compared with the other States, and what alone would materialy produce that power in the United States, which the European Nations have reason to wish us dispossess’d of, And I sincerely hope Sir, that Our Countrymen, will not long be influenced by partial views, individual benefits or be gulled into erroneous measures, by false notions of National gratitude—

I cannot omit mentioning the very great pleasure I receiv’d when I found by your Letters, to Govr. Bowdoin, Messrs. Cushing, Hancock Higginson & Cranch,3 which they were Kind enough to shew me, that you so warmly approved Our Navigation Act, and the pleasure was much enhanced, on account of its being a Child, I had with much difficulty brought into being, and whose existance, from its powerful opponents, promised to be of no long duration, the sentiments in your letters silenced their clamours, and the Act remains, essentialy the same, taking off only part of the restrictions on foreigners (British excepted) by reason of the difficulty of sending our produce to Market in our own bottoms, while the Algerine war continues— in carrying through this Act it became necessary to combat the interest of many considerable characters who found their account in foreign consignments, and who had been very industrious in prejudicing the minds of our Country brethren, by telling them that their Cattle &c would necessarily be sold at a less price—

it is much to be regretted that our commercial importance is so little understood, and that even our Sea port Towns in a great degree neglect chusing persons to represent them who have an acquaintance with the subject, there has been for several years past, but two members in one branch of the Legislature, and almost as few in the other, that ever had any connection in the bussiness or pretended to scarce any Knowledge of it— and sorry I am to say that some even of respectable characters, appear to view our commercial affairs as trivial and unimportant— What will be the future issue of our National concerns, deeply affects me with anxiety, and I confess 55 from the sinister persuits of individuals, the discordent and perhaps opposite interests of some of the States, and the General aversion there is of giving Congress, those powers essential for the purposes of our federal government, the prospect to me appears not a little gloomy; the only consolation I derive, is from a reflection, that when the evils become severely felt we may be willing to apply a remedy—

pardon my freedom in writing this letter, and be assured that I shall esteem myself honour’d in executing any commands you may see fit to lay upon me—4

I am with sentiments of high regard / Your Excellency’s Friend & servant

Benja. Goodhue

NB. Rhode Island has pass’d a Navigation Act, & Pensylvania has laid very considerable burthens on Vessels belonging to Nations not in alliance

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “His Excellency, John Adams Esqr. / Grosvenor Square, Westminster”; endorsed: “Mr. B. Goodhue. / 20 Decr. 1785 / ansd. 10. March 1786.”

1.

Richard Cranch wrote to JA on 29 Dec. that he had asked his fellow senator Benjamin Goodhue of Salem “to answer your Request to me about the Cod-Fishery” ( AFC , 6:506–507). Goodhue’s enclosed account of the “Cod & Mackerel fisheries” has not been found. In his 29 Dec. letter Cranch identified Goodhue (1748–1814), Harvard 1766, as “a Merchant largely concerned in the West India Trade” who was the “Father” of the Massachusetts navigation act. Goodhue was later an ardent Federalist who served Massachusetts in the U.S. Congress as both representative and senator ( Sibley’s Harvard Graduates , 16:359–367).

2.

Closing parenthesis editorially supplied. This enclosure has not been found, but for the bounty on whale oil adopted by the Mass. General Court on 28 Nov., see vol. 17:598.

3.

See JA’s letters of 15 Aug. to Thomas Cushing, 2 Sept. to John Hancock, and 4 Oct. to Stephen Higginson (vol. 17:337–338, 384–385, 489–494), as well as those of 22 Aug. to Cranch ( AFC , 6:294–295) and 2 Sept. to James Bowdoin (LbC, APM Reel 111).

4.

See JA’s reply to Goodhue of 10 March 1786, below.