Papers of John Adams, volume 18

From John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 13 December 1785 Adams, John Jefferson, Thomas
To Thomas Jefferson
Dear Sir Grosvenor Square Decr. 13. 1785.

I have received a Letter from my Friend General Warren of Milton Hill near Boston, acquainting me, that Congress have it in Contemplation to appoint their Ministers Consuls General, or rather to give them Authority to appoint Consuls, and that you are to have the nomination of that Officer for Lisbon. that his son Winslow Warren, went Sometime ago And Settled at Lisbon, partly upon Some Encouragement of some Members of Congress that he might have that Place and requesting me to write you upon the Subject.1

I Sincerely hope, as far as it concerns myself that Congress, 38 instead of giving me the Appointment of any, may do the Business themselves For there can be no Employment more disagreable than that of weighing Merit, by the Grain & scruple because the World very seldom form an Opinion of a Man precisely the Same with his own, and therefore the Scales will always be objected to, as not justly ballanced. It is worse than the Business of a Portrait Painter, as Men are generally better Satisfied with their own Talents and Virtues, than even with their Faces.— I fancy you will not be delighted with this Amuzement more than myself, but if We are ordered upon this service, I suppose We must do it. in which Case, I only pray you to remember that Mr Warren now at Lisbon is a Candidate. I have known him from his Infancy, from his very Cradle.— He is an ingenious and as far as I have observed a modest Man. His Education, Connections and Course of Life, having been bred to Trade has been such that his Qualifications for the Place may be supposed to be as good as any who will probably apply for it, or accept of it. Coll Otis his Grandfather, the famous James Otis his Unkle, his other Unkles, and his Father, have been to my Knowledge, for these five and twenty Years, among the firmest and steadiest supporters of the American Cause.— I declare, I dont believe there is one Family upon Earth to which the United states are so much indebted for their Preservation from Thraldom.— There was scarcely any Family in New England had such Prospects of Opulence and Power under the Royal Government. They have sacrificed them all.— It is true, and I know you will act upon the Maxim, that the Public Good alone is the Criterion but it is equally true that the public Good requires that such conspicuous and exemplary services and Sacrifices, should not be neglected, and therefore Considerations of this sort ever did, and ever will and ever ought in some degree to influence Mankind.— I know of no other Candidate.— probably there will be Several, and I know you will decide upon the purest Principles and with mature deliberation, and therefore I shall not only acquiesce in but defend your Decision, tho it may be against my Young Friend the son of a very old and much beloved one. I am with / usual Esteem, dear Sir, your Sincere Friend & / very humble Servant

John Adams.

RC (DLC:Jefferson Papers); internal address: “Mr Jefferson.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 113.

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James Warren’s letter was of 6 Oct. (vol. 17:499–500). There Warren related information he had received from Elbridge Gerry, which JA accurately summarizes. Congress 39 acted on 28 Oct., and while it did appoint JA and Jefferson consuls general to Britain and France, respectively, it did not empower them to appoint consuls to the various ports within their jurisdictions ( JCC , 29:855). For another application to JA for the Lisbon consulship, see Edward Church’s 14 Jan. 1786 letter, below.

From John Adams to the Marquis de Lafayette, 13 December 1785 Adams, John Lafayette, Marie-Joseph-Paul-Yves-Roch-Gilbert du Motier, marquis de
To the Marquis de Lafayette
Dear Sir— Grosvenor square Decr. 13. 1785

I have received your favour of the 30th. Ulto. and thank you for the extract enclosed—1 The Commerce of new England will follow their oil, wherever it may go and therefore I think it good Policy, in the Controller General to take of the duty— But there is another object of Importance I mean the sperma Cæti Chandles— Will you be so good as to inform me whether these are prohibited in france? or what duties they are subject to on Importation? whether these duties can be taken off,? Whether they are at all used or known in france? Whether they cannot be brought into fashion in private families, or even in Churches? they are certainly cheaper & more beautiful than wax, & emit a purer, brighter flame— Pot ash, too: I want to know, what quaintity of Pot ash & Purl ash, is annually consumed in France? from what Country imported? in what it is paid for? whether in Cash, Bills or Goods? & at what Prices ordinarily? This is another article, by which france may draw to herself a great share of the Trade of New England— Our Merchants will be obliged to alienate their Commerce from this Country, and transfer it in a great measure to France.— They are awkward and unskilful, at present, how to effect it, and every aid you can afford them will be gratefully acknowledged—

I hope that Mr. Boylston and Mr. Barrett, will be able to compleat a Contract, with Monsieur Tourtille De Sangrain for the Illumination of your Cities— Boylston’s Capital will enable him to do what he pleases, but you may depend upon it, he will do nothing but what is profitable— No Man understands more intuitively, every thing relating to these subjects, and no man is more attached to his Interest— You sent your Letter by the post I suppose, in hopes it would be opened in the Post Office and sent to Court to assist me a Little in my negotiation— I have the Pleasure to inform you, that your intentions were probably fulfilled, for although they conceal their art with more care in the post offices here, then they think it necessary to make use of in Paris, yet I assure you there is not less Curiosity: And your Letter upon an attentive inspection may be plainly 40 perceived to have been opened— I am glad of it, because altho’ it will not assist me much, nor make any great impression I shall at least have the Pleasure to think we teaze them a little— my best respects to Madam La fayette & Love to Anastasie & George— Yours

J. A—

LbC in WSS’s hand (Adams Papers); internal address: “Marquis Lafayette—”; APM Reel 113.

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Neither Lafayette’s 30 Nov. letter nor its enclosure has been found. The extract, however, was likely from a 17 Nov. letter from Charles Alexandre de Calonne and was similar, if not the same, as that which Lafayette enclosed with his 20 Nov. letter to Thomas Boylston (Lafayette, Papers , 5:352–353).