Papers of John Adams, volume 17

To Thomas Jefferson, 27 May 1785 Adams, John Jefferson, Thomas
To Thomas Jefferson
Dear Sir Bath Hotel London May 27. 1785

I found that either the Duke of Dorsetts Letter to the Premier, had produced an order at Dover or that his Graces Letter to the Custom House Office had as good an Effect, for I was allowed to pass without Molestation, and indeed received Marks of particular Respect.

We arrived Yesterday 26. in the Afternoon, and as Fortune would have it Coll Smith arrived the Night before 25.— We Soon met.— I wrote a Card to the Marquis of Carmarthen, at Nine at Night, acquainting his Lordship of my Arrival and desiring an Hour to wait on him. This Morning, I had an Answer, that his Lordship would be 124glad to See me at one at his House, or at four at his Office, as I chose. I replyed, that I would have the Honour to wait on him at one.

Coll Smith went with me, we were admitted in an Instant, and politely received.— I laid before him my Commission, and left him a Copy.— Coll Smith did the same with his. I consulted his Lordship about the Ettiquette of my Letter of Credence, and he gave me the Same Answers as the Comte de Vergennes gave you. His Lordship then said that on Wednesday next after the Levee, I should be presented to his Majesty in his Closett, and there deliver my Letter of Credence, and that on the next Levee Day Coll smith would be presented. This he Said was according to the Usage.

I have Since Seen the Dutch Minister, who enquired of every particular step by step, and then Said that I was received precisely upon the Same Footing with all the other Ministers. I learn’d from the Dutch Minister too another Particular which gave me Pleasure, vizt that the Usage here is directly contrary to that in Holland and France. Here the new Minister receives the first Visit, from all the foreign Ministers, whereas in France & Holland the new Minister makes the first Visit to all the foreign Ministers and notifies formally to them his Reception. This Saves me from an Embarrassment, and We shall now see, who will and who will not. We Shall See what will be done by Imperial Ministers. &c

With the most cordial Esteem I have the Honour to / be, sir, your most obedient and most humble / servant

John Adams

RC (DLC:Jefferson Papers); internal address: “His excellency Thoms Jefferson Esqr / Min. Plen from the United states to the / Court of Versailles.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 111.

From the Marquis of Carmarthen, 27 May 1785 Carmarthen, the Marquis of Adams, John
From the Marquis of Carmarthen
Sir, St Jamess. May 27. 1785.

I forgot to mention to you today when you did me the honour to call upon me in Grosvenor Square, that it is customary for every Foreign Minister to send the Secretary of State a Copy of the Credential Letters they are directed by their Sovereigns to present to His Majesty or to The Queen. with regard to the superscription I find the credentials of the Ministers from the States General of the United Provinces are only addressed—“Au Roi de la Grande 125Bretagne.” I believe I did mention to you Sir that The Credential Letters are always delivred sealed into His Majestys Hands.

I am Sir / your most Obedient / & most humble Servant

Carmarthen.

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “John Adams Esqr. &c. &c. &c.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 111.