Papers of John Adams, volume 16

The American Commissioners to the President of Congress, 15 December 1784 American Commissioners Adams, John Franklin, Benjamin Jefferson, Thomas President of Congress
The American Commissioners to the President of Congress
Sir Paris Decr. 15. 17841

In our letter of Novr 11th. we had the honour of laying before Congress a state of our proceedings till that date. As from that it would appear that the last communications had in every instance passed from us to the other parties we can now only add the answers of such of them as have yet answered, & our replies; these are the courts of Portugal, Tuscany & Great Britain. No. 1. is a copy of the communication from the Ambassador of Portugal to us; No. 2. a copy of our reply; No 3 a copy of the draught of a treaty which we enclosed to him.2 No. 4. is a copy of a letter to us from the chargé des Affaires of Tuscany & No. 5. our answer, which enclosed a copy of the same draught of a treaty only changing the style of the other party.3 We must observe that the draught of a treaty which had accompanied our letter to Baron Thulemeier, the Prussian Minister at the Hague, which letter was enclosed in our last to Congress but without the plan of the treaty, was verbatim the same with those to Portugal & Tuscany with only a like change in the style of the other party. No. 6 is a copy of a letter to us from the British Ambassador here; & No. 7. of our reply.4

We received information from the public papers that an American vessel which had just sailed from Cadiz was captured on the 11th. of Octr. by a frigate of the Emperor of Morocco being one of five which he had cruizing in the ocean, and that she was carried into Tangiers on the 16th of October. This intelligence is confirmed in a letter from Mr Carmichael, who adds that the vessel captured belonged to the State of Virginia. We think it our duty to mention this event to your Excellency as it will shew the necessity that immediate measures be taken with the piratical states for the preservation of our trade to the Mediterranean, to Spain & to Portugal, and perhaps to countries still more distant as their vessels may extend their cruizing grounds.

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With the most perfect consideration & respect we have the honour to be / Your Excellencys / Most obedient & / Most hble Servants

John Adams B. Franklin T. Jefferson.

FC in David Humphreys’ hand (PCC, No. 116, f. 138–140); internal address: “His Excellency / The President of Congress / at the seat of / Congress.”; notation: “2nd. Report to Congress.”

1.

Congress received the RC of this letter and its enclosures on 28 Feb. 1785, but they are not in the PCC (PCC, No. 185, III, f. 114).

2.

For the first enclosure, an extract from the Portuguese prime minister’s 24 Oct. 1784 letter to his ambassador at Versailles, the Conde de Sousa Coutinho, see Benjamin Franklin’s 15 Nov. letter, and note 1, above. For enclosures 2 and 3, see the commissioners’ 30 Nov. letter to Sousa Coutinho, above.

3.

These are Francesco Favi’s 16 Nov. letter and the commissioners’ reply of 9 Dec., both above.

4.

These are the Duke of Dorset’s 24 Nov. letter and the commissioners’ reply of 9 Dec., both above.

Giuseppe Doria Pamfili to the American Commissioners, 15 December 1784 Pamfili, Giuseppe Doria American Commissioners
Giuseppe Doria Pamfili to the American Commissioners
Messieurs a Paris le 15. Xbre. 1784.1

J’ai rendu compte à ma Cour de l’ouverture contenue dans La Lettre que Vous m’avez fait l’honneur de m’écrire le 22. de Septembre dernier.2 Sa Sainteté faisant non moins attention à la convenance de Votre proposition, qu’ayant égard à ce que les prérogatives des Catholiques Romains habitans et Sujets des Etats Unis d’Amerique, y sont constamment conservées, m’ordonne de Vous déclarer que tous les batimens portant pavillon des Etats Unis qui aborderont dans les ports de Civitavecchia dans la méditerranée ou d’Ancone dans l’Adriatique y auront tout l’accueil qu’ils peuvent desirer; bien entendu que reciproquement les batimens et les effets des Sujets du St. Siege Seront traités de la même maniere dans les ports des Etats Unis. A cette déclaration je dois ajouter par ordre exprès de Sa Sainteté que les Sujets des Etats Unis d’Amérique trouveront dans les ports de la domination du St. Siege ci-dessus mentionnés une personne députée par Sa Sainteté pour leur donner toute l’assistence dont ils auront besoin.

Je me félicite d’être chargé de Vous déclarer ces intentions de ma Cour qui ne peuvent qu’être agréables aux Etats Unis d’Amérique.

J’ai l’honneur d’être avec une parfaite consideration / Messieurs / Votre très humble et très / Obéissant Serviteur

S.J. Archeveque de Seleucia
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TRANSLATION
Gentlemen Paris, 15 December 17841

I have given an account to my court of the overture contained in the letter that you did me the honor of writing to me on 22 September last.2 His Holiness, no less mindful of the fitness of your proposal than concerned that the prerogatives of the Roman Catholic inhabitants and subjects of the United States of America are continually preserved, orders me to declare to you that ships under the flag of the United States that land in the ports of Civitavecchia on the Mediterranean or Ancona on the Adriatic will find there all the welcome that they might desire, with the reciprocal understanding, of course, that the ships and goods of the subjects of the Holy See will be treated in the same manner in the ports of the United States. To this declaration I must add by explicit order of His Holiness that the subjects of the United States of America will find in the ports under the dominion of the Holy See mentioned above a person designated by His Holiness to give them all the assistance that they might require.

I am pleased to be charged with declaring to you the intentions of my court, which can only be agreeable to the United States of America.

I have the honor of being with perfect respect, gentlemen, your very humble and very obedient servant

S.J. Archeveque de Seleucia

RC (PCC, No. 86, f. 85–88); internal address: “[…] Mrs. Les Ministres Plenipotentiares / […] Etats Unis d’Amerique (en Passy)”; endorsed: “Paris Decr 15. 1784 / from / The Pope’s Nuncio”; notation: “Pope.” Some loss of text due to a torn manuscript.

1.

Giuseppe Doria Pamfili, the archbishop of Seleucia, served as apostolic nuncio to France from 28 Oct. 1773 to 16 Feb. 1785 ( Repertorium , 3:291). Although dated 15 Dec. 1784, this letter was not delivered to the commissioners until late Feb. 1785 (commissioners to John Jay, 18 March, below).

2.

See the commissioners’ 9 Sept. 1784 letter to the Baron von Thulemeier, and note 3, above.