Papers of John Adams, volume 16

Matthew Ridley to John Adams, 10 February 1784 Ridley, Matthew Adams, John
From Matthew Ridley
Dear Sir Paris February the 10. 1784

I am honored with yours of the 25th: Ulto. You will perhaps have heard by other hands the heavey loss I have met with— Mrs. Ridley died the 21st. Ulto. I am highly sensible of your kind wishes— If the kind concern of Friends & the sincere Prayers of an Affectionate Husband could have averted the Event I had still been bless’d with her! Itis a Subject I must drop.— Thank God! my Son Essex is in good Health.1

What the Roman in Heaven may think of the use made of his Name & plough I know not? But certain itis that many on Earth who may not possess all the stiff Virtue of a Cincinnatus think that both his Name & plough are strangely abused. Officers, serving under an Absolute Monarch & whose elevations depend on Wars and Broils, arranging themselves under the revered Name of Cincinnatus!—preposterous Idea!; And is I think only to be equalled by the permission given to them to carry at the Same Button Hole, with the Decoration of a King the Golden trinket of a set of Individuals assuming to themselves the power of creating dinctinctions hitherto unknown to themselves or Fellow Citizens— I cannot say who was the Inventor, but that the Idea is French I have no doubt, none but 24 such could have imagined a Bit of Ribon with a Trinket at the End of it to make one Citizen contemn the other.2

I hope & believe our Officers have not weighd the tendency of this Business— Pity itis that some one of Influence had not stopd it in time—After decorating the French Officers with it by Permission of the King I fear every Chevalier will be too tenacious of the distinction to relinquish it— The only mode I know to succeed in this would be Ridicule & that of the most pointed kind both here and in America— The difficulty will be how to convey the Ridicule properly into this Country. Otherwise one might say to a Chevalier of the Royal Order. “Le Ruban que vous portez n’est pas grande chose Aujourdhui Celui d’une societé des Individus est attaché a la meme Boutonniere par parmission de Votre Roi et consequemment les Particuliers sont en Etat de confuer de distinctions aufin eclatantes & honorables que votre Saint Roi Louis. Nous avons plusieurs Ordres en Amerique— Les Francs Maçons, Les fils de St. Patrick Les fils de St. Andrew et Les fils de St. Tamminy (Roi Indien) On dit que tous ces Ordres ont intention d’envoyer un de Leur societé en France pour solicite la permission du Roi que tous les Officiers Francois sans distinction puissent porter L’Embleme de leur Ordre. Quel Bonheur pour ceux qui ont si long temps soupiré pour un Morceau de Ruban. Allors mon Ami, Courage vous ne serez pas oublié, et j’espere qu’on ne tardera pas d’y adjouter un Collet—de Chervre.— pour ceux qui ont le Manie des Rubans.[]3

I am sorry indeed for what you tell me about Mr. Morris’s Bills— Still I hope something will be done about them for I dread the Event of their going back.—

The late Loan here for 100 Millions is quite filled & upon the same terms they might I believe have had as much more. Every thing seems quiet—& it is said the differences between Russia & the Porte are settled.— Confusion I hear prevails in England & indeed it appears they take great pains there to create disorder.

The Doctors complaint continues much the same—not very troublesome.—4 Mr Grand & Family well as are all your Friends— Mr Jay has been returned about a Fortnight—

With the Money you left I paid your Appartments. ₶744.— Letters received at sundry times ₶78.15 & the remainder I have paid to Mr Barclay whom you will please to call upon for it amounting ₶377.15—

The packet that carried out Mr. Thaxter is returned but has brought very few Letters.5 A Vessel is arrived in London left 25 Annapolis the 6th. of January. The Members of Congress excepting the President were there. As the Captain got under sail he heard the Guns fire & therefore supposes he was arrived & that a House was made up—

Remember me kindly to your Son— Mrs. Barclay & Family are well & join in best wishes— I am with Respect Dr Sir / Yr. mo Obedt Servt

Matt: Ridley

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “His Excy: J. Adams.”; endorsed: “Mr Ridley Feb. 10 / 1784.”

1.

In his letter of 25 Jan., JA wrote, “I still hope, Mrs Ridley will recover,” and closed with a request to be remembered to “Mrs Ridley and the Children.” Adding to Ridley’s grief was the death on 8 Jan. of his four-month-old son, Lucius Lloyd. Ann Richardson Ridley had been ill since giving birth to Lucius in Sept. 1783 (vol. 15:206, 468–469).

2.

For Ridley’s earlier comments about the Society of the Cincinnati and its activities in France, see his letter of 27 Dec., vol. 15:436–438. The society’s French branch held its first meeting at Paris on 7 Jan. 1784. JA had been equally critical of the society in his reply of 25 Jan., but see also the 8 March letter from the Marquis de Lafayette and JA’s reply of the 28th, both below.

3.

The ribbon you wear is no great thing these days. That from a society of individuals is fixed to the same buttonhole with the permission of your king, and consequently private individuals are able to confer distinctions as dazzling and as honorable as your holy King Louis. We have several orders in America: the Freemasons, the Sons of St. Patrick, the Sons of St. Andrew, and the Sons of St. Tammany (Indian king). They say that each of these orders intends to send one of its members to France to ask the king for permission to have all French officers regardless of their rank be able to wear its emblem. What happiness for those who have sighed for so long to have a bit of ribbon! So, my friend, courage. You will not be forgotten, and I hope they will not be long in adding a collar of chevrons for those with a mania for ribbons.

4.

In his 27 Jan. letter, JA had inquired about Benjamin Franklin’s “Complaint of the Stone, Gravel &c” (vol. 15:469).

5.

The Courier de l’Europe (vol. 15:306).

John Adams to Benjamin Franklin, 11 February 1784 Adams, John Franklin, Benjamin
To Benjamin Franklin
Sir The Hague Feb. 11. 1784

Last night I received your obliging Favour of the fifth of this Month.

Your Excellencys Sentiment, “that the Foundation of Credit abroad must be laid at Home” is perfectly just, and accords with the General Sentiment of the Money Lenders, Undertakers and Brokers in this Country, whose Universal Cry is “We Should choose to see Some certain Method agreed on and established, for the Payment of Interest before We adventure farther in the American Loan.[”]

I am glad to hear of Mr Jays Safe return, to Paris and hope his Health is confirmed.— As the Instructions may be executed by any one or more, of the Ministers for the Peace, residing at the Court of 26 Versailles, it Seems to me to be more for the Benefit of the publick Service, that I Should remain here for Sometime, rather than go to Paris. I have not given over all Endeavours to obtain the Money for the Bills, although the best Friends We have inform me, there is no hope at all from the Publick. We are endeavouring to discover if it is possible by any new Plan of a Loan, to obtain the Money of the Undertakers. Yet by all I can learn I despair of Obtaining it, without agreeing to Terms so disadvantageous as to be little better than the final Protest of the Bills.— indeed it is Still improbable that I can obtain it, upon any Terms at all.— Money is Scarce as well as our Credit feeble. The Loan of the East India Company, warranted by the States of Holland, does not fill, a Case unknown in this Country.

Your Excellency with Mr Jay, may proceed to execute those Instructions without me, and I hereby intreat that you would without waiting at all for me. It is not likely there will be any difference of Opinion between your Excellencies, concerning any of those Instructions, in which Case alone it would be necessary for me to attend, if Mr Laurens does not.

It is probable We may soon learn Something from Congress in Answer to our Letter with the definitive Treaty, which will determine whether it is necessary I should join you, at Paris or not.—1 It would be very inconvenient to me, in the present tender State of my Health to make a Journey to Paris without a necessity, at least untill this formidable Winter breaks up, although I should be ambitious enough of the Honour of joining in the Execution of those orders.

I wish your Excellencies an happy Year and much Pleasure in the Enjoyment of Peace, as well as Success in your Negotiations, whether joined or not by your / most obedient and most humble sert

LbC (Adams Papers); internal address: “Dr Franklin”; APM Reel 107.

1.

This was the commissioners’ 10 Sept. 1783 letter to the president of Congress, with which they enclosed various documents, including the Anglo-American definitive peace treaty itself (vol. 15:282–288).