Papers of John Adams, volume 7

From Ralph Izard, 28 September 1778 Izard, Ralph JA

1778-09-28

From Ralph Izard, 28 September 1778 Izard, Ralph Adams, John
From Ralph Izard
Sir Paris 28th. Septr. 1778

I am favoured with your Letter of 25th., and agree with you in opinion that there is no necessity of discussing the question respecting the Commissioners, now; inconveniencies might arise from it, and no valuable purpose could be answered that I know of. I agree with you likewise that if the Fishery of New England has proved injurious, by introducing Luxury, and Vanity, it must be the fault of the People, rather than of the Fishery. If the quantity of money which is acquired by the Fishery, affords an argument for the discontinuance of it, I am afraid it may be applied with equal propriety against every other industrious means of introducing wealth into the State. The passion for Ribbons, and Lace, may easily be checked by a few wholesome, sumptuary Laws; and the money that has hitherto been employed upon those articles will be found very useful towards sinking our enormous national Debt. This Debt, I fear, will not be sunk during my life; till that is done, I do not think that any danger to our morals is to be apprehended from our excessive Riches.

I should be obliged to you if you would let me know whether you think the reasons which are given in my last Letter, respecting the Treaties, are well founded. I am very willing to communicate my sentiments to you on the other articles; but submit it to you whether it 85would not be better that this should be done verbally, rather than by Letter. I have the honour to be with much esteem Your friend, & humble Servant

Ra. Izard

RC (Adams Papers); docketed: “Mr Izzard. 28 Sep ans. Septr. 1778.” JA's answer was actually dated 2 Oct. (below).

Matthew Ridley to the Commissioners, 29 September 1778 Ridley, Matthew Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

1778-09-29

Matthew Ridley to the Commissioners, 29 September 1778 Ridley, Matthew Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris
Matthew Ridley to the Commissioners
Honourable Sirs Paris September the 29th. 1778

Meeting accidentally, when in London, with a Manuscript Book of the Commissioners of the English Navy, a few Years back; containing a very accurate description of the Dimensions, Guns, Men &ca. of most Ships then in Commission; various calculations for the purpose of Ship building and repairing; the duties of the several Officers in their different stations on board Ships of War, and other matters, I conceived it might be of very material service, to those concerned in the Navy of the United States, and therefore secured it. I now beg leave, Honourable Sirs, through you to present it to Congress. Should they think it worthy their acceptance: and that it should be the means of only a small advantage to their Navy, I shall esteem myself happy, as having, by any means, contributed thereto. Possessing property in the State of Maryland, it is my earnest desire that I may derive my only security therein, from the joint Powers of the United States; and that those of their Navy may encrease, long flourish, and as their Land exertions, already are, become, the Wonder of the World, is the sincere Wish of Honourable Sirs Your most Obedient and most humble Servant

Mattw: Ridley1 of Baltimore in the state of Maryland

RC (PPAmP: Franklin Papers); addressed: “The Honorable Commissioners of the United States of America”; docketed: “Mr Ridley. ansd.”; in another hand: “Sep. 29. 78.”

1.

In a letter of 22 Oct. (LbC, Adams Papers) the Commissioners thanked Ridley, a Maryland merchant, for the manuscript and promised to send it to America by the first safe opportunity (JA, Diary and Autobiography , 2:357). No indication has been found as to when or if the gift reached the congress.

The Commissioners to John Ross, 30 September 1778 Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris Ross, John

1778-09-30

The Commissioners to John Ross, 30 September 1778 Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris Ross, John
The Commissioners to John Ross
Sir Passi September 30. 1778

We have received your Letter of the twenty second of September,1 and take this Opportunity to say, that We have no Authority, either to give you Orders or Advice, any further than respects the large Sum of Money, which the Commissioners put into your Hands sometime ago. 86Of the Expenditure of this Money, We have demanded an Account, which you have refused to give Us.

With your private Concerns We have nothing to do. If you have any Power derived from the honourable Committee of Congress, to that Committee you must be responsible and look for Instructions. We can never justify interfering in those Affairs, much less could We be justified in Advancing more Money, to a Gentleman who has refused to give Us an Account of a large sum already intrusted to him, not to mention the Circumstances of Indecency, with which that Refusal was accompanied, and with which most of your Letters since have been filled. We return you the original Contract, which you inclosed to Us, Sometime ago.2

That you may Save yourself for the future the Trouble of writing Letters to Us, We now assure you, that it is our fixd Determination to have nothing further to do with you, or any Affairs under your Care, untill you have laid before Us, and settled your Account of the public Money you have received from the Commissioners, unless We have Instructions from Congress, which with the most perfect Attention, We shall ever observe. We are, sir, your humble servants.

B Franklin Arthur Lee John Adams

P.S. It is proper you shoud be informd that there appears from Mr. Williams's Accounts to have been a farther advance made to you of twenty thousand Livres3 for which we likewise expect you will without delay account with us.

B Franklin Arthur Lee John Adams

RC (MiD); LbC (Adams Papers). In the recipient's copy, the postscript is in Arthur Lee's hand.

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Not found.

2.

In the Letterbook copy, JA originally intended to end the letter here.

3.

No reference to this advance has been found in Williams' accounts (see Williams to the Commissioners, 22 Sept., note 1, above).