Papers of John Adams, volume 7

Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to the Commissioners, 17 September 1778 Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. (business) Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

1778-09-17

Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to the Commissioners, 17 September 1778 Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. (business) Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris
Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to the Commissioners
Messieurs Amsterdam le 17 September 1778

Nous avons reçu, la Lettre dont vous nous avez honnorés le 31 du Mois passé, et qui ne nous est parvenuë que le 15 du courant.1

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Par nôtre précedente du 7 nous vous avons accusé la Reception, par M. Whitall, du Livre, contenant 205 Promesses des Etats Unis de L'Amerique de Courant F. 1000 chaque, payable au Ir. Janvier 1788, rêvetuës de 10 de 50 pour les Interêts, à 5 pour Cent par Année, le tout au Porteur, Sous vos Signatures formant un Capital de courant F. 205000, avec les Interets.

Nous allons travailler à la Negotiation de ces Effets, avec tout le Zêle, et la Prudence, dont nous Sommes capables, en prenant les Prêcautions necessaires pour mênager le Credit des Etats, dans ce debut, nous y employerons tous les Moyens que 50 Ans d'Experience, nous ont acquis.

Nous nous conformerons à tous Egards aux Instructions que vous nous donnés, en cottant La A tant le Livre, que chaque promesse, dont nous remplirons les blancs, en les numerotant, nous observerons de les couper en festons et de remplir le Talon qui restera attaché au Livre, pour Servir de Controlle, sans avoir besoin pour cela du Modêle que vous nous annonçez, Ce qui ne s'est pas trouvé dans votre Packett.

Il est bien entendu que nous ne lacherons aucun de ces Effets, que contre Argent comptant, et qu'a mêsure que nous en placerons, nous vous en donnerons avis, accompagné d'un Bordereau exact, et conforme aux Premisses dêlivrées et au Talon.

Cet Emprunt êtant le premier qui se soit fait en ce Genre, et dans cette forme, nous ne pourrons savoir, si l'on exigera quelque autentiçité, ou formalité, avant que d'avoir consulté nos Courtiers, et autres emploÿes dans ces Sortes de Negotiations.

Mais nous allons sans perte de Temps, nous en occuper avec eux et traitter de maniere à obtenir la prêfêrençe, sur les Levées qui Sont ouvertes pour diverses Puissançes, d'Allemagne, du Nord, &ca. qui rendent l'argent tres rare.

L'allouançe que vous nous accordés, nous mettra en Etat de nous la procurer, et nous Souscrirons aux Conditions que vous nous prescrivez, de nous charger de tous les frais quelconque, de commission, Courtage, Gratifications, Posts de Lettres, remises d'argent, même du Paÿement des Coupons d'Intêrets, que nous ferons gratis, quoÿque nous retirions 2 pour Cent de touttes les Course, que nous servons pour ces dêtails minutieux, et embarrassants; au moÿen d'une augmentation d'un pour Cent sur les Intêrets, ce qui fera une diminution de 10 pour Cent sur le Capital, ainsy pour chaque F. 1000 que nous negotierons, nous vous remettrons 900. net de tous fraix quelconque, et vous n'aurez qu'a nous faire entrer les Interets à Raison de 5 pour Cent, à mêsure de leur Echêances, pour les Payer aux Porteurs ce qui surpri-51mera tous dêtails et comptes, autres que ceux de nôtre Reçette et Remise.

Il est d'ailleurs bien entendu, que nous nous ferons paÿer avec le Capital, des Promisses, l'Intêret des coupons qui auront couru, Ce que nous vous le bonifiërons.

Nous espêrons, Messieurs, que vous aprouverez cet Arrangment, sans lequel nous Serions obligéz d'avançer de nôtre Argent, les Gratifications, et Génêralement tous les autres fraix, pour n'en etre rembourçéz qu'en 10 Ans, chaque Année un dixieme, ce qui n'est pas praticable, vú surtout la somme ou nous avons esperançe de porter vôtre Emprunte.2

Nous avons l'honneur d'etre tres respectueusement, Messieurs, Votres Vos tres humble et tres Obeissants serviteurs

Horneca, Fizeaux & Comp.
Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation, 17 September 1778 Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. (business) Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

1778-09-17

Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation, 17 September 1778 Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. (business) Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris
Horneca, Fizeaux & Co. to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation
Gentlemen Amsterdam, 17 September 1778

We have received the letter that you did us the honor to send the 31st of last month, but which did not arrive until the 15th.1

In our letter of the 7th, we acknowledged the receipt, from Mr. Whitall, of the book containing 205 promissory notes of the United States of America, each for 1,000 florins current payable on 1 January 1788 and accompanied by 10 of 50 florins for the interest of 5 percent per year payable to the bearer and under your signature, amounting to a capital of 205,000 florins current plus interest.

We will undertake the negotiation of these bills with all the zeal and prudence of which we are capable, taking the necessary precautions to safeguard the credit of the states, and employing in this new offering all the resources that 50 years of experience have given us.

We will conform, in every respect, to the instructions that you have given: stamping both the book and each promissory note with the letter “A,” numbering the blanks on the counterfoils while making sure that they are detached in a scalloped pattern, and filling out the counterfoils that will remain attached to the book as a means of control; without having need for the model that you said you were sending, but which we did not find enclosed in the package.

It is, of course, understood that we are not to place any of these bills against anything but cash-money and that, as they are placed, we shall send you a notice accompanied by a detailed memorandum matching the delivered promissory notes with their counterfoils.

This loan being the first that we have made of this type and in this form, we have no way of knowing beforehand if some proof of authenticity or other formality will be asked of us before having consulted our broker and others employed in these kinds of transactions.

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We will, however, start the proceedings immediately in order to obtain a preference over the offerings opened by several powers of Germany, the North, &c., which make money very scarce.

The allowance which you have granted will enable us to get this advantage, and we shall abide by the conditions that you have prescribed, taking upon ourselves all the expenses such as commission, brokerage, gratuities, postage, remissions of money, and even the payment of the interest-coupons. This we will do at no charge, although we will take out 2 percent on all commissions, to cover the minutiae and petty details, by increasing by one percent the interest, which will represent a 10 percent decrease on the capital. That is, for each 1,000 florins we negotiate, we will remit to you 900 florins free of all charges whatsoever and you will have only to enter the interest at 5 percent, as it comes due, for payment to the bearers, thus eliminating all accounting details other than our receipts and remissions.

It is also understood that we will be paid from the capital of the promissory-notes; the interest on the coupons which will have accrued, we will credit to you.

We hope, gentlemen, that you will approve this arrangement, without which we would be obliged to advance from our own money to pay the gratuities and general expenses, for which we would not be reimbursed until 10 years later, at one tenth per year. This is not practicable, particularly in view of the sum that we hope to raise with your loan.2

We have the honor to be very respectfully, gentlemen, your very humble and very obedient servants

Horneca, Fizeaux & Co.

LbC (Adams Papers).

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Vol. 6:411–413.

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Horneca, Fizeaux & Co.'s proposal to take their service charge of 10 percent off the top, rather than at the rate of onetenth of that amount per year, was refused by the Commissioners in a letter of 2 Oct. (LbC, Adams Papers). There the Commissioners stated that to do so would be to exceed the interest rate of 6 percent to which they were limited and to which they had to adhere.