Papers of John Adams, volume 7

Alexander Gillon to the Commissioners, 25 January 1779 Gillon, Alexander Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

1779-01-25

Alexander Gillon to the Commissioners, 25 January 1779 Gillon, Alexander Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris
Alexander Gillon to the Commissioners
Gentlemen Brest the 25th. Jany. 1779

Permit me to embrace this earliest opportunity of acquainting you of my arrival here this day from Our Continent, Via Havana, were I embark'd in A Spanish Vessel for Spain the 17 Novr. last, and on the 19th. Instant fell in with A Small Fleet from here under the Command of Count de Grace,1 (Cape Finisterre bearing E S E about 50 Leagues) who immediately with his Usual Politeness, offer'd me this Frigate Le Fortunée Capn. Marigny, to conduct me here or to Land me at the first convenient place if met with contrary winds. This friendly offer I accepted, because I tho't it wou'd be forwarding the business I am sent on, and it is with very great pleasure I assure you, that I received every attention from Capn. Marigny and his officers, also from the Gentlemen in the above Fleet, and that I esteem their Politeness as A proof of the friendship of their Nation for Ours. I have some Letters for your Excellencies, but as I conceive them to be introductory ones,2 I propose myself the happiness of presenting them to you soon, as I only go to Nantes, to be inform'd what property there is arrivd in Europe belonging to the State of South Carolina, and to give directions about its disposal. This business with the few days I propose tarrying here, will make it the 6th. Feby. ere I can leave Nantes, which admits time for any Letters of yours to Reach me there, under cover to Messrs. H. Q. Chaurand freres, if any of your Excellencies will Condescend to favour me with a Reply hereto; if so, you will Much Oblige me in communicating to me any interesting intelligence, you may have Received from 380our Continent Since the 23d. July last,3 as it was then I set out for France, but A long detention at the Havana, and allmost continual contrary winds the different passages, has caus'd my thus long Journey. I am with all due Respect Your Excellencies Most Obedt. hble. Servt.

A. Gillon

RC (PPAmP: Franklin Papers); docketed, not by JA: “Mr. Gillon answd. Feb. 2. 79.”

1.

Count de Grasse had sailed with four ships of the line from Brest on 14 Jan. for the West Indies, where he arrived on 19 Feb. (Charles Lee Lewis, Admiral de Grasse, Annapolis, 1945, p. 73).

2.

For several of these letters, as well as an account of Gillon and his mission, see Edward Rutledge to JA, 16 July 1778, and note 1 (vol. 6:294–295).

3.

In their reply of 2 Feb., Benjamin Franklin and JA congratulated Gillon on his arrival, but stated that they had no news from America since November and nothing interesting since Estaing's departure from Boston (LbC, Adams Papers; PCC, No. 102, IV, f. 149).

The Commissioners to John Lloyd and Others, 26 January 1779 Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris Lloyd, John

1779-01-26

The Commissioners to John Lloyd and Others, 26 January 1779 Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris Lloyd, John
The Commissioners to John Lloyd and Others
Gentlemen Passy January 26. 1779

We had Yesterday the Honour of your Letter of the Twenty first of this Month.

You desire to know what Port or Ports, is or are made free, pursuant to the Treaty? We believe that none have as yet been determined on. At present all the Ports of France, are open, to American Vessells of all Denominations, and we are at present rather doubtful whether it would be politick in Us to apply1 to have any Distinction made. If the Appointment of free Ports would, relieve Us from the payment of Duties, of Import or Export, We should apply immediately. But as We apprehend, this Advantage would not be the Consequence. The Limits of the free Port would be prescribed, and the same Duties must be paid upon removing Goods within or without those Limits as are now paid upon Imports and Exports. Goods however might be, brought into Such free Ports from abroad and there landed and stored for a Time, and then exported without paying Duties, but whether this would be any great Advantage to our Trade, at present you are better Judges than We. We should be glad of your Advice upon this Head, and if you think of any Advantages, of considerable Moment that would arise We shall be always ready to apply, for such an Appointment.

We are sorry it is not in our Power to give you any acceptable Information respecting the Eighth Article of the Treaty which relates to the Barbary Corsaires. All We can Say is, that We have applied to the Ministry upon this Head, some Months ago, and received Satisfactory Expressions of the Disposition of this Government to do every 381Thing which is stipulated in that Article of the Treaty. But Some Things remain to be determined by Congress, to whom We have written upon the subject and We must necessaryly wait their Instructions.2

There are two Enquiries to be made, vizt. which of all the Nations who now Trade with France is the most favoured, and what Duties are paid by that Nation. These Duties, and these only, We suppose, We are to pay, and as soon as Circumstances will permit, (two of Us having been for a fortnight very ill, and one of Us continuing so)3 We shall apply to the Ministry for an Ecclaircissement upon this Head, which We will endeavour to communicate to you, as soon as We shall obtain it.4

We have received an Answer to our last Application for a Convoy from their Excellencies the Comte De Vergennes and M. De Sartine, but the Answers convinced Us that M. De Sartine was Under Some Misinformation or Misunderstanding relative to the Business, which obliged Us to write again.5 As soon as We shall be honoured with an Answer, We will communicate the Result of it to you. Mean Time, We have the Honour to be with great Respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient humble servants6

LbC (Adams Papers).

1.

The preceding four words were interlined for insertion here.

2.

The correspondence between the Commissioners and Vergennes concerning Art. 8 was dated 28 Aug. (vol. 6:403), 27 Sept., and 1 Oct. 1778 (both above). The Commissioners had written to the president of the congress concerning the article on 7 Nov. (above).

3.

Lee, as is indicated by his letter to Benjamin Franklin and JA of 20 Jan. (above), had been suffering from a fever, while JA had had a severe cold (JA to AA, 18 and 19 Jan., Adams Family Correspondence , 3:149–150).

4.

No letter by the three Commissioners on this subject has been found.

5.

For the Vergennes and Sartine letters, see the Commissioners to Vergennes, 24 Jan., and note 1 (above).

6.

There follows a list of all those, except Robert Brooke, who had signed the Lloyd letter of 21 Jan. (above).