Papers of John Adams, volume 7

145 Gabriel de Sartine to the Commissioners, 19 October 1778 Sartine, Antoine Raymond Jean Gualbert Gabriel de Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

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Gabriel de Sartine to the Commissioners, 19 October 1778 Sartine, Antoine Raymond Jean Gualbert Gabriel de Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur First Joint Commission at Paris Adams, John
Gabriel de Sartine to the Commissioners
Marli le 19. 8bre. 1778

J'ai reçu, Messieurs, les deux Lettres1 que vous m'avez fait l'honneur de m'ecrire au Sujet de la reclamation que fait M. Izard des Effets pris Sur le batiment le Nil. Je vous ai observé par ma Lettre du 7 de ce mois, que l'Autorite devoit Seulement Suppléer aux Loix lorsqu'elles etoient insuffisantes; et qu'elle devenoit inutile et déplacée lorsque la Legislation etoit claire et précise. Vous devez, Messieurs, Sentir mieux que qui que ce Soit, toute la Justice de ce principe, et je ne doute pas qu'il ne se rencontre des Circonstances où vous pourrez le reclamer vous même avec fondement. La Prise du Vesseau le Nil a été déclarée bonne ainsi que celle de Sa Cargaison, en ordonner la restitution partielle, et enlever aux Armateurs une proprieté qui leur est acquise au moins provisoirement, ce seroit mêler l'Autorité a la Legislation, et introduire une forme dangereuse dans l'administration que Sa Majesté a etablie pour les Prises. Plus vous vous persuadés que la demande du Sieur Izard est conforme aux Traités, plus vous devez croire que Sa reclamation Sera accueillie et les frais d'une requête au Conseil Sont peu considerables. Il est vrai qu'il auroit été possible de les eviter, Si la proprieté de M. Izard avoit été demontrée avant le premier jugement, parce qu'alors il n'auroit été question que de constater cette proprieté qui me paroit incontestable; mais dans l'etat actuel des choses, je suis fâché de ne pouvoir lui éviter les formalités indispensables auxquelles Sa Majesté a dû assujetter ses allies comme ses propres Sujets.

J'ai l'honneur d'etre avec une consideration tres distinguée, Messieurs, Votre tres humble et tres obeissant serviteur

De Sartine2
Gabriel de Sartine to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation, 19 October 1778 Sartine, Antoine Raymond Jean Gualbert Gabriel de Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur JA First Joint Commission at Paris

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Gabriel de Sartine to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation, 19 October 1778 Sartine, Antoine Raymond Jean Gualbert Gabriel de Franklin, Benjamin Lee, Arthur Adams, John First Joint Commission at Paris
Gabriel de Sartine to Benjamin Franklin: A Translation
Marly, 19 October 1778

I have received, gentlemen, the two letters1 that you did me the honor to write regarding Mr. Izard's complaint about the goods captured on the ship, the Nile. In my letter of 7 October, I indicated that the government would intervene only in such cases where the laws were insufficient and that such an intervention would be unnecessary and uncalled for when the legislation was clear and precise. You ought to be, gentlemen, in a better position than anyone else to know the justice of this principle, and I have no doubt that you will run into circumstances where you will have solid grounds to invoke it. The ship, the Nile, and its cargo have been declared a good prize and to order a partial restitution and thereby take from the privateers property they have acquired— at least temporarily—would amount to having the govern-146ment meddle with the law and introduce a dangerous precedent into the regulation of prizes established by His Majesty. The more you are persuaded that Mr. Izard's request is in conformity with the Treaties, the more you must believe that his claim will be favorably received and the cost of addressing a petition to the Council is not great. It is true that it would have been possible to avoid this if Mr. Izard's ownership had been proven before the initial judgment, because then it would have been only a question of verifying that ownership, which to me appears incontestable. But, as things stand now, I am sorry to say that he will be unable to avoid the indispensable formalities to which His Majesty has subjected his allies, as well as his own subjects.

I have the honor to be with utmost consideration, gentlemen, your very humble and very obedient servant

De Sartine2

LbC (Adams Papers).

1.

For these letters, dated 12 and 13 Oct., see that of the 12th, and note 1 (above).

2.

In their letter to Izard of 22 Oct. (LbC, Adams Papers), the Commissioners enclosed a copy of this letter and advised him to take action as soon as possible. On the following day Izard wrote to JA and Arthur Lee to thank them for their commendable, but “ineffectual,” efforts to recover his property (PPAmP: Franklin Papers).