Adams Family Correspondence, volume 10

John Adams to John Quincy Adams, 12 May 1794 Adams, John Adams, John Quincy
John Adams to John Quincy Adams
My dear son Philadelphia May 12. 1794

Your Letter of April 27 was put into the Post office at New York and I have neither seen nor heard of Mr Dorr nor Mr Jones. It is probable they found a Conveyance for their Letters in the ship which carries our Envoy Extraordinary and their Journey to this Town became unnecessary. I should have been glad to have seen them and I suppose they might have obtained their Request without difficulty.1

With the Father and Mother of Mr Dorr I was well acquainted in my Youth and have always remembered them with Esteem.2

Your Brother Thomas has in his Circuit attended the Court in Chester and York Town and is now I suppose in Lancaster. By his Letters he has been pleased with the Country and his Journey. When he returns he is to take an Office in this Town.

We expect to know by the Post of this Day, who are your Representatives. The Fœderalists as they call themselves, I Suppose will be discouraged by their late defeat from exerting their forces against the old Members. It has been whispered here that Otis will come in.3

Your Brother Charles has taken a new Office, and Baron Steuben is gone to his Plantation there to reside for the Remainder of his 177 Days. I often wish that the time was come for me to return to mine, much humbler and poorer than his. But Retirement like other new Things would only please for a while and then become insipid.— so I go on a little longer. You Young Folks must prepare to take your Turns.

I am

J. A.

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “J. Q. A.”

1.

On 27 April JQA wrote to JA regarding Ebenezer Dorr Jr. (1762–1847) and Edward Jones, two Boston merchants who sought to petition Congress to receive special dispensation to send a ship to Europe (Adams Papers; Thwing Catalogue, MHi); see also JQA to JA, 26 May, below. John Jay sailed on 12 May to England from New York on the Ohio (New York American Minerva, 12 May).

2.

Ebenezer Dorr Sr. (d. 1809) of Boston was originally a leather dresser and later a merchant. He married Abigail Cunningham (b. 1739) in 1762 (Thwing Catalogue, MHi).

3.

Harrison Gray Otis was elected to represent Boston in the Mass. General Court ( DAB ).

Thomas Boylston Adams to John Adams, 14 May 1794 Adams, Thomas Boylston Adams, John
Thomas Boylston Adams to John Adams
Sir Lancaster 14 May 1794.

Your letter of the 10 has come to hand; I arrived at Lancaster a few hours before it; of course you favor of a prior date is yet to be received.1 I have requested the Post Master of York Town to forward it here when it reaches that places— As to the Letter’s you speak of I am at a loss what request to make concerning them— The business of Newcombe cannot be advanced till I return; if you will be good enough to leave the letter in the hands of Mr Otis, if you should be gone before my return, I shall find it with him— The letter from Mr Wm Morris, I wish may be inclosed to me at Carlisle; next week.2 My visit to York Town was very delightful; the town is handsome & I dare say much improved since you knew it—3 The Banks of the Codorus—the same creek, immortalized by the fertile fancy of Mr: Vining in the debate of Congress concerning Permanent residence— are rich & well cultivated—4 The slow moving, lethargic German, will in time subdue the roughest soil— The same spirit that prompts him to perseverence in the attainment of wealth, urges him to a kind of honest obstinacy in the pursuit of Justice, when he is unjustly deprived of it; and it is not uncommon I am told for the parties to expend double the value of the thing in dispute, for the sake of a trial for victory— Indeed there has been a cause of this cast upon trial these two days past— The dispute is concerning a water course or Spring— it has been at Law nearer 30 than 20 years— Several trials have been had, but the Juries have always disagreed & no 178 verdict has ever been had— The value of this Spring to either of the parties is trifling, but not less than six hundred Pounds has been expended by them. Germans are apt to consider courts of justice as engines convertible to the purposes of revenge & private mallice— It may be profitable for Lawyers, but is a wrong & perhaps injurious sentiment, to be diffused at large.

At York Town I met with great civility from Col Hartley & his Family— they are the principal people in the County, & his influence as a political character far beyond any man in it—5 I also met with an old Gentleman whom I take to be near, if not past 70 years of age by the name of Smith— He knew you very well in the year that Congress met at York Town; told me he used often to walk with you on the commons, & remarked how fond you were of viewing a well cultivated Farm— The old Gentleman’s spleen against Great Brittain has not diminished in the smallest degree, but age perhaps has rather increased it— He is still at the Bar; a circumstance rather singular, as I never recollect to have seen so old a man in the practice of Law—6

I thank you Sir for the news papers I received & should be glad of one or two more at Carlisle— Fenno’s Paper is very little in the circulation of the Country I find, and in point of news when one gets past the Susquehannah there is a perfect dearth.

Before I leave this place I will endeavor [to send] a few lines more from

Thomas B Adams—

RC (Adams Papers); addressed: “The Vice President of the United States / Philadelphia Boston”; internal address: “The Vice President of the U. S.”; endorsed: “T. B. A. Lancaster / May 14. 1794.” Some loss of text where the seal was removed. This is the first of several letters originally addressed to JA in Philadelphia but redirected either to Boston or Quincy, presumably after JA left Philadelphia on 31 May.

1.

Neither letter has been found.

2.

Possibly William White Morris (1772–1798), a son of Robert Morris who had studied law at the University of Pennsylvania (Washington, Papers, Presidential Series, 6:578; Eleanor Young, Forgotten Patriot: Robert Morris, N.Y., 1950, p. 195).

3.

JA spent time in York, Penn., in Sept.-Oct. 1777 during the final weeks of his service in the Continental Congress; see vol. 2:342, 349–350, 352–354, 357–358, 359–362, 365. The Congress convened there following the British occupation of Philadelphia.

4.

John Vining (1758–1802) represented Delaware in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1789 to 1793 and the Senate from 1793 to 1798. During the congressional debate over the permanent seat of government on 3 Sept. 1789, he inquired regarding the proposed location of the capital, “whether Congress are to tickle the trout on the stream of the Codorus, to build their sumptuous palaces on the banks of the Potomac, or to admire commerce with her expanded wings, on the waters of the Delaware” ( Biog. Dir. Cong. ; Annals of Congress, 1st Cong., 1st sess., p. 880–881).

5.

Col. Thomas Hartley (1748–1800), a lawyer and soldier in the Revolutionary War, served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1789 to 1800. His wife was the former Catherine Holtzinger ( DAB ).

179 6.

James Smith (1713–1806), a York, Penn., lawyer and iron manufacturer, had been a Pennsylvania delegate to the Continental Congress, 1776–1778, and a signer of the Declaration of Independence ( Biog. Dir. Cong. ).