Papers of John Adams, volume 18

From John Adams to James Bowdoin, 9 May 1786 Adams, John Bowdoin, James
To James Bowdoin
Sir London May 9. 1786

Your Excellencies Letter of the 12. of January I have had the Honour to receive, and am much obliged to you for the Information in it

Your Opinion of the Policy of this Country, will be found in the Result of Things to be just, and your Reasoning in Support of it is so conclusive and at the Sametime, so obvious, that it is astonishing it has not its Effect upon the Cabinet. Every Consideration has 287 been repeatedly urged to no Effect. Seamen, the Navy, and Power to Strike an awfull Blow to their Ennemies at Sea, on the first breaking out of a War, are the Ideas that prevail over all others. Mr Jenkinson, an old Friend of the British Empire, is Still at his Labours. He is about establishing a Bounty upon fifteen Ships, to the southward and upon two to double Cape Horn for Sperma Cæti Whales. Americans are to take an Oath that they mean to settle in England, before they are entitled to the Bounty.1 I have long Since informed Congress, that nothing is to be expected from this Country, but Poverty, Weakness and Ruin. if after all our People will carry on a ruinous Trade, it is their own Concern. But no Man can do them a greater Injury, than by holding up to their View a hope, that We shall receive any Relief, by taking off the Duty on Oil, or by admission to the West India Islands. They will infallibly be deceived if they entertain any Such Expectations.

I have been circumstancially informed from time to time and Step by Step, from Mr Jefferson the Marquis de la Fayette and Mr Barrett of all the Negotiations for exchanging our Oyl for the Produce, Manufactures and Sugars of France. The great Revolution in Trade, which you mention ought to be promoted by every Friend of America, and it must take Place. I have made Use of all these Considerations But if an Angel from Heaven should declare to this Nation that our States will unite, retaliate, prohibit or trade with France, they would not believe it. There is not one Man in the Nation, who pretends to believe it, and if he did he would be treated with Scorn. Let me intreat you, Sir, and every other Citizen of the United States to extinguish all hopes of relief to their Trade from this Country.

Peace with the Turks, comprehending under this Term Constantinople Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers and Morocco, is essential to our Navigation and Commerce and political Consideration in Europe. Two or three hundred Thousand Guineas, and nothing less will obtain it. it will be miserable Policy and Œconomy, to loose two or three millions in Trade, Insurance &c and Still worse to add two or three millions more in filling out a Navy to fight them, in order to Save that Sum in customary Presents. We are now limited to a Sum that will be worse than thrown away.

Intrigues of Individuals are Said to be on foot, to sett South America free from Spain, and not improbably the Pulse may be felt in the United States. But I hope the States will not only be prudent 288 themselves, but oblige Individuals to be so too.— Portugal & Spain are bound by a Treaty of 1778 to Support each other in Such a Case, and all the World will be in flames.2 We had better avoid the fury of them.

Three great Objects agitate the Cabinets of Europe in Secret. The Passage of the Dardanells and navigation of the Danube, I consider as one, a free Commerce with all the East Indies is a Second, and the Independence of south America is the third. They will all be pursued untill they are obtained, as I fully believe. But as all know the Contest will be Sharp, extensive and long, all are afraid to begin. This is all confidential, between you and me and a few of our discreet Friends.

God bless our Country, but I still tremble for its Safety.

With great Respect, I have the Honour / to be your Excellencys most obedient / and most humble servant

John Adams.

RC (MHi:Winthrop Papers); internal address: “His Excellency / James Bowdoin / Governor of Massachusetts.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 113.

1.

JA refers to two undertakings then before the Pitt ministry and Parliament. The first concerned the negotiations between William Rotch, a Nantucket merchant, and Charles Jenkinson regarding Rotch’s plan to move Nantucket whaling families to England so that they could carry on their trade without being subject to the British alien duties. The negotiations broke down by mid-1786, and Rotch turned to France as an alternative (vol. 17:598).

The second was an act for the “Encouragement of the Southern Whale Fishery” (26 Geo. 3, ch. 50) that was adopted on 7 June. It was notable for permitting British whaling ships to operate in waters nominally controlled by the East India Company and the South Sea Company. Neither this act nor an earlier act pertaining to the Greenland fishery mentioned Americans (Edouard A. Stackpole, Whales & Destiny: The Rivalry between America, France, and Britain for Control of the Southern Whale Fishery, 1785–1825, Amherst, Mass., 1972, p. 78–79, 81–82; to Benjamin Goodhue, 10 March, note 1, above).

2.

This is the Treaty of El Pardo, signed by Queen Maria I of Portugal and King Charles III of Spain on 11 March 1778.

From John Adams to Wilhem & Jan Willink and Nicolaas & Jacob van Staphorst, 11 May 1786 Adams, John Willink, Wilhem & Jan (business) Staphorst, Nicolaas & Jacob van (business)
To Wilhem & Jan Willink and Nicolaas & Jacob van Staphorst
Gentlemen— Grosvenor Square May 11th. 1786

I have received your favour of the 5th. of May inclosing a Duplicate of a Letter from the Commissioners of the Board of Treasury to me of the 7th. of March, the original of this Letter is not come to hand—

These Letters Surprized me, very much, because Mr. Rucker had informed me a fortnight ago that he had orders to pay the Interest both in Holland & France I went yesterday to his House to make a 289 more exact Inquiry and found that he has orders to pay 30,000 Dollars only.1 This, however, though less than I wish, I hope will be some Relief to you.

I am very glad you have advertised the payment of the Interest— This is a right measure, although the Consequence of it should be, a necessity for Mr. Barclay and Mr. Lamb and myself to return to America.

I would gladly hold back “any further disposals upon you Gentlemen, untill you receive Remittances from America or effect the sale of some of the Bonds still remaining on Hand” if it were in my Power: But you know that Mr. Barclay and Mr. Lamb are often drawing upon me, and if their Bills are protested, the Whole System of their business is undone—and if my draughts for my own salary and disbursements, are not honoured, I must starve or go home— To return to America would be a Pleasure to me, and no disadvantage to the United States, or any body else that I know of—but even in this Case I must depend upon you for Cash to enable me to return— if you cannot find means to advance me my salary, let me beg of you to let me know it, by return of post, because in that case, I would come over to Holland for a few Weeks and take leave of their High mightinesses in order to return home to America, by the July Packett— I hope the future draughts of Mr. Barclay and Lamb upon me will not be payable, much before August, the last of Lamb were at double usance—so that they will not be due, much before that time, if at all—

One Thing is now certain—that Congress will soon be enabled to pay their Interest in Europe punctually for if they are not.—

If I should return home, I must have Money to live while I stay, and at least six hundred Pounds sterling which Congress allows each Minister to pay his Expences in preparing for his return & getting home, and this I will have if I am obliged to go to Amsterdam and open a new Loan for it. I know very well I can still borrow Money in Holland— And no man who has any of my obligations in his Possession need be under any Concern for his Principal or Interest—as long as there is house or Land, Stock or Block, in the United States in may recover it, in any Court of Law, in any state & lay his execution on what he will— But he need not fear any such trouble— The People of America since the Peace, have been employed in Reparation of the Ravages of War, & replacing their Stock— they will in future be employed in Production, and will find no 290 difficulty to manage the frivilous Debt they owe in Europe, Their Debt is not two hundred & seventy two Millions sterling, nor are their agriculture fisheries, Peltries, or Commerce or Manufactures decreasing— with great esteem I am Gentlemen / Your friend & Humble sert.

J. A—

LbC in WSS’s hand (Adams Papers); internal address: “Messrs. Willinks / & / Van staphorsts”; APM Reel 113.

1.

This is John Rucker, a partner in Robert Morris’ New York banking house. The Adamses had met him and his wife, Jane Marshall Rucker, in France and socialized with them in London ( AFC , 7:28).