Papers of John Adams, volume 17
Je dois réponse aux honorées vôtres des 1er. & 10 du court.
J’écris ce fois à Mr. Cerisier afin de savoir pourquoi l’insertion n’a pas encore été faite de la piece que j’ai envoyée il y a 12 à 15 jours 622à Mr. Luzac, & pour le presser de me renvoyer l’original & sa traduction imprimée, pour pouvoir vous retourner le tout selon vos ordres.1
J’ai fait grand plaisir Aux Amis, en leur lisant les beaux complimens que vous avez eu la bonté de me com̃uniquer, & qu’ils ont très-fort goûtés, ainsi que moi-même. Nous avons tous senti la multitude d’idées renfermée dans les trois premiers, & l’extrême simplicité du dernier. Tous font bien leurs complimens à votre Exce. ainsi que Mr. De Sanafé à qui j’ai expliqué ce qui le regarde dans votre Lettre du 20.
Je vous remercie, Monsieur, de la boñe nouvelle de l’arrivée de Mr. votre fils; com̃e aussi de celle de Mr. Franklin, à qui vous voudrez bien acheminer dans votre premier paquet la ci-jointe, qui est le juste retour d’une d’adieu qu’il a eu la bonté de m’écrire au mois de Juillet, en partant de Paris.2
Nous partageons sincerement le plaisir de la bonne santé & société dont vous jouissez avec Mesdames Adams, à qui nous présentons nos homages.
Je ne suis pas surpris des difficultés que recontre l’affaire dont vous me parlez. Si ce qui leur arrive ici ne les rend pas plus traitables avec vous, je ne saurai plus qu’en penser.
Mr. H——s continue de supposer que je n’existe pas. Je dois continuer de supposer de mon côté qu’il ne veut pas me connoître. Il me connoît pourtant: car Jeudi passé il sut fort bien dire mon nom à quelqu’un qui le lui demandoit, à un grand Souper que donnoit Mr. le Cte. de Maillebois, & dont j’avois l’honneur d’être. On vint me le dire à l’oreille un instant après. Je ne parle de cela, au reste, que parce que je crois qu’il est bon, Monsieur, que vous sachiez jusqu’aux minucies à cet égard, & aussi pour que je ne puisse jamais être taxé d’avoir manqué à mon devoir. Je suis avec grand respect, De Votre Excellence le très-humble & très-obéissant serviteur
Le Congrès verra par l’incluse pour lui, que la France ni la Hollande n’oublient pas, jusque dans leurs réjouissances, que les Etats-Unis sont leurs bons Alliés.3
I must reply to your honored letters of the 1st and 10th of the current month.
623I am writing to Mr. Cerisier this time to know why the insertion has not been made of the document I sent twelve to fifteen days ago to Mr. Luzac, and to urge him to send me the original and his printed translation, to be able to return the whole thing to you, per your request.1
I pleased my friends greatly by reading them the kind compliments which you had the goodness to transmit to me, and which they greatly appreciated, as did I. We all sensed the abundance of ideas in the first three, and the extreme simplicity of the last one. All kindly send their compliments to your excellency, along with Mr. De Sanafé, to whom I explained the matter that concerned him in your letter of the 20th.
I thank you, sir, for the good news of the arrival of your son, and also of Mr. Franklin, to whom may it please you to forward the enclosed letter in your first parcel, which is the proper response to the farewell message that he had the graciousness to write to me in July upon his departure from Paris.2
We sincerely share with you the pleasure of good health and company which you enjoy with the Adams ladies, to whom we present our respects.
I am not surprised by the difficulties encountered in the affairs you speak of to me. If what befalls them here does not render them more amenable to you, I will not know what to think.
Mr. Harris continues to assume that I do not exist. I must continue, in turn, to assume that he does not wish to know me. Yet, he does know me, for Thursday last he was quite able to tell my name to someone who had asked it of him, at a grand dinner that the Comte de Maillebois was hosting, and which I had the honor to attend. This was whispered to me a moment later. By the way, I mention this simply because I think it good, sir, that you know even the minutiae of this matter, and also so that I might never be reproached for having neglected my duty. With utmost respect, I am your excellency’s most humble and most obedient servant
Congress will see from the enclosed letter, that though they rejoice, neither France nor Holland forgets that the United States are their good allies.3
RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “à Son Excellence Mr. J. Adams, Esqr., Min. Plenipo:”; endorsed: “Dumas 29. Nov. / 1785.”
Antoine Marie Cerisier, JA’s longtime friend and former editor of Le politique hollandais, was currently employed at Jean Luzac’s Gazette de Leyde (vols. 10:276; 16:56). Dumas was inquiring about Jesse Dunbar’s deposition taken in regard to the Stanhope Affair, for which see James Bowdoin’s 10 Aug. letter, and note 3, above; and AA’s detailed account of it to Thomas Jefferson in
AFC
, 6:437–438. JA had enclosed a copy for publication in the Gazette with his 10 Nov. letter to Dumas (LbC, APM Reel 111). The French translation of the deposition appeared in the Gazette de Leyde of 6 December.
This is almost certainly Dumas’ 29 Nov. letter to Benjamin Franklin, responding to Franklin’s letter of 5 July (both PPAmP: Franklin Papers). In his letter Franklin indicated that he was returning to America and expressed his appreciation for Dumas’ service to the United States for which he had “not hitherto been properly rewarded.” In his reply, Dumas indicated his happiness that Franklin had arrived safe in America and his 624hope that Franklin would present Dumas’ case to Congress, noting that if he was appointed the American resident, it would save Congress the cost of a minister. To support the proposal, Dumas indicated his intimacy with the French ambassador, the Marquis de Vérac, and the Comte de Maillebois, commander of the Dutch Army. Dumas also reported the signing of the Austro-Dutch Treaty of Fontainbleau and the Franco-Dutch defensive alliance.
This is probably Dumas’ 25 Nov. letter to the president of Congress (Nationaal Archief: Dumas Papers, Microfilm, Reel 2, f. 767–768). The major portion of the letter reported on a dinner given by Vérac on the previous day to celebrate the signing of the Franco-Dutch alliance. The event was attended by Dumas and his fellow Patriots Cornelis de Gyselaar and Engelbert François van Berckel, and various foreign ministers and government officials. Among the toasts offered was one to the United States. Dumas also indicated that he and the friends of the United States were awaiting Congress’ formalization of Dumas’ status in the Netherlands.
]130 November 1785
The Subscriber, Minister Plenipotentiary, from the United States of America, has the Honour, to represent to the Ministry, of his Britannic Majesty, that by the seventh Article of the Preliminary Treaty, of Peace, between his Majesty, and the United States of America, Signed at Paris, on the thirtieth day of November, one Thousand Seven hundred and eighty two, confirmed by the definitive Treaty of Peace, signed at Paris, on the third day of September, one thousand seven hundred and eighty three, it was Stipulated, that His Britannic Majesty Should, with all convenient Speed, and without causing any destruction or carrying away any Negroes, or other Property of the American Inhabitants, withdraw all his Armies, Garrisons, and Fleets, from the said United States, and from every Port, Place and Harbour within the same, leaving in all Fortifications, the American Artillery, that may be therein.—
That, although a Period of three Years has elapsed Since the Signature of the Preliminary Treaty, and of more than two Years, Since that of the Definitive Treaty, the Posts of Oswegatchy, Oswego, Niagara, Presqu’ Isle, Sandusky, Detroit, Michilimachinac, with others not necessary to be particularly enumerated, and a considerable Territory round each of them, all within the incontestable Limits of the said United States, are Still held by British Garrisons, to the Loss and Injury of the said United States.
The Subscriber, therefore, in the Name, and behalf of the said United States, and in Obedience to their express Commands, has the Honour to require, of his Britannic Majestys Ministry, that all 625his Majesty’s Armies and Garrisons be forthwith withdrawn, from the said United States; from all and every of the Posts and Fortresses herein before enumerated, and from every other Port Place and Harbour within the Territory of the said United States, according to the true Intention of the Treaties aforesaid
Done at Westminster, this thirtieth Day of November, one thou sand Seven hundred, and eighty five
RC (PRO:FO 4, State Papers, vol. 3, f. 355–358); endorsed: “Memorial from / Mr. Adams. / R. 8th: Decr. 1785.”; notation: “Copies sent to / Lord Sydney & / Mr. Pitt:.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 111.
JA presented this memorial to Carmarthen at their meeting on 8 December. For his original intention to present a memorial on 1 Dec. and why he changed the timing of it, see his first letter of 24 Nov. to John Jay, above. In his second letter of 30 Nov., however, Carmarthen wrote to postpone the meeting until 8 Dec. (Adams Papers). For JA’s earlier discussion of the frontier posts with William Pitt, see his 25 Aug. letter to Jay, above.