Papers of John Adams, volume 14

From C. W. F. Dumas, 3 April 1783 Dumas, C. W. F. Adams, John
From C. W. F. Dumas
Monsieur LaHaie 3e. Avril 1783

Nous savons ici, par Lettres de Hambourg du 25 du passé, que Mr. Votre fils, après S’y être arrêté quelques jours, en étoit reparti le 23.1

Voici des Lettres Américaines venues par la poste d’Angleterre. Celle de Mr. Guild S’est trouvée dans un paquet entierement usé & 382 image 383 image 384ouvert d’un côté. Il contenoit deux brochures: Letter to the Abbé Raynal by Ths. Payne, & Catalogus eorum qui in Universitate Harvardiana Cantabrigiæ in Rep. Massachsi. ab año 1642 ad an. 1782 alicujus gradus laurea donati sunt. 2 J’ai cru devoir déposer ces deux pieces dans votre Secretaire, & vous envoyer Seulement la Lettre.3

A certain face you would not meet in a wood, you will meet it, with his influenza in the future Congress of final pacification, at which I am assured he is appointed to assist. I Sat next him yesterday at the F. Ambassador's, who gave a Diplomatic Dinner.4 We were much talkative together about the several climates of Russia nearly corresponding with those of our States, and the extensiveness of both, about Kamtschatka, Capt. Cook, the Caspian Sea and Mount Caucase, which he told me he went through. There, said I, you may possibly have traaden on some of the Steps of Alexander the great. He Smiled, and I too, fancying him horded, when there, with the modern Hircanians, so formidable to Caravans.5

Je Suis avec grand respect, De Votre Exce. / le très-humble & très / obéissant serviteur

Dumas
Translation
Sir The Hague, 3 April 1783

We know by letters from Hamburg of 25 March that your son, after staying there for some days, departed on the 23d.1

Here are some American letters that came via the post from England. The one from Mr. Guild was in a very tattered parcel, open along one side. It contained two pamphlets: Letter to the Abbé Raynal by Thomas Paine, and Catalogus eorum qui in Universitate Harvardiana Cantabrigiæ in Rep. Massachsi. Ab anno 1642 ad an. 1782 alicujus gradus laurea donati sunt. 2 I thought I should place these two pieces in your writing desk, and send only the letter.3

A certain face you would not meet in a wood, you will meet it, with his influenza in the future Congress of final pacification, at which I am assured he is appointed to assist. I Sat next him yesterday at the F. Ambassador's, who gave a Diplomatic Dinner.4 We were much talkative together about the several climates of Russia nearly corresponding with those of our States, and the extensiveness of both, about Kamtschatka, Capt. Cook, the Caspian Sea and Mount Caucase, which he told me he went through. There, said I, you may possibly have traaden on some of the Steps of Alexander the great. He Smiled, and I too, fancying him horded, when there, with the modern Hircanians, so formidable to Caravans.5

I am with great respect, your excellency's very humble and very obedient servant

Dumas
385

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “Paris à Son Excellence Mr. Adams M. P.”

1.

In fact, JQA left Hamburg on 5 April (JQA, Diary , 1:174).

2.

For the publications sent by Guild, see his letter of 28 Nov. 1782, and note 7, above, but Dumas is probably here referring to Guild's letter of 3 Dec., above, and the cover letter for the pamphlets dated the 7th (Adams Papers), for which see JA's letter to Guild of 9 April, and note 1, below.

3.

Dumas wrote the following paragraph in English and it has been inserted verbatim into the English translation.

4.

Dumas’ conversation at the French ambassador's dinner was with Arkady Markov, special Russian envoy to the Netherlands. In the summer of 1782 JA had a humorous exchange with the Russian centering on the similarity between the words “influenza” and “influence” (vol. 13:422, 424–425). In March, Catherine II had renewed the Austro-Russian mediation proposal, with the negotiations for the general peace to be held at Paris rather than, as previously intended, at Vienna. Markov was to join the Russian minister to France, Ivan Sergeevich Bariatinskii, for the negotiations (De Madariaga, Armed Neutrality of 1780 , p. 433; U.S. and Russia , p. 183).

5.

The Hyrcanians were the inhabitants of a region of ancient Persia located southeast of the Caspian Sea.

From Philippe Jean Joseph Lagau, 4 April 1783 Lagau, Philippe Jean Joseph Adams, John
From Philippe Jean Joseph Lagau
Monsieur à Hambourg ce 4 Avril 17831

J’ai reçu la lettre dont Votre Excellence a bien voulû m’honorer le 21 du mois passé.2 La présente lui sera remise par Monsieur Hardouin negociant au Havre de Grace qui a eu l’honneur de faire la Coñoissance de Monsieur votre fils en cette ville et qui est en état de vous en donner de bonnes nouvelles.3 Il m’a prié de Le recommender à vos bontés, et comme Il part de ce païs y regretté de tous ceux qui L’y ont connû je prends la liberté de vous supplier de daigner L’honorer de votre bienveillance et de L’acuillir favorablement. Je saisirai toujours avec empressement toute occasion que se présentera pour vous temoigner ma recoñoissance ainsi que Le profond respect avec lequel j’ai L’honneur d’étre / Monsieur / de Votre Excellence / Le trés humble et trés / obeissant Serviteur

Lagau
Translation
Sir Hamburg, 4 April 17831

I have received the letter of 21 March with which your excellency honored me.2 The present letter will be delivered to you by Mr. Hardouin, a merchant of Havre de Grace who had the honor of meeting your son in this town and who will be able to give you good news of him.3 He asked me to commend him to your good offices, and as he is leaving the country, much to the regret of all who knew him here, I take the liberty of begging you to honor him with your goodwill and to receive him favorably. I shall always seize eagerly on any occasion that arises to demonstrate my gratitude, together with the profound respect with which I have the honor to be, sir, your excellency's very humble and very obedient servant

Lagau
386

RC (Adams Papers).

1.

The firm of Parish & Thomson also wrote on 4 April (Adams Papers) to inform JA that JQA was still at Hamburg but would proceed overland to The Hague. In the letter, JA's of 19 and 24 March were mentioned, for which see the firm's letter of 7 March, and notes 1 and 2, above.

2.

Probably JA's of 24 March thanking Lagau for his assistance in tracking JQA (LbC, APM Reel 108).

3.

JQA introduced the otherwise unidentified Hardouin in a 6 May letter to JA , describing him as “a French young Gentleman whose company I had the pleasure of from Hamborough to Amsterdam, and who intends to go to Havre de Grâce to form an establishment in the commercial way” ( AFC , 5:150).